Dozens of Muslim scholars and faith leaders unite to send a powerful message to the Democrats
  • fukhueson@lemmy.world
    8·
    4 hours ago

    The letter calls on Muslims to instead vote for any of the third-party candidates, including the Green Party’s Jill Stein whose support has swelled among the Muslim American community in recent weeks.

    You don’t say…

  • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
    63·
    3 hours ago

    Yes, it’s far better to help Trump win. You know, the wanna be dictator who has already said he wants Israel to hurry up and get it over with. Yeah, that makes loads of sense.

    • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world
      26·
      3 hours ago

      Ha stupid Palestinians not wanting to vote for someone who promised to continue arming the state that is killing their families! Wow what idiots. Do they want a Trump presidency? What dumb dumbs, they clearly don’t understand democracy: you vote for us otherwise it’ll get even worse.

      Pressuring their preferred candidate to change their policies by saying they’ll vote third party because of this issue? NO! The only way is slavish loyalty, that way they’ll know they can do what they want and it won’t affect their vote share.

      Jokes aside: I do think Harris is better on this issue (and people should still vote for her) but surely you can see how this disingenuous criticism really side steps the issue. What if it was your family, so you tried to push change on this issue with your only tangible democratic power and then some jumped up boot licker starts lecturing you on how this is actually stupid because the other guy will kill your family FASTER? I would tell that person to fuck all the way off.

      • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        11·
        42 minutes ago

        Jokes aside: I do think Harris is better on this issue (and people should still vote for her) but surely you can see how this disingenuous criticism really side steps the issue.

        The game is this: present two options, one far-right and one centre-right. And people will argue for and against the sadness of always having to vote for the lesser of two evils. This will distract at least some of them from the fact that things don’t get better, because “we lost because you didn’t vote for the lesser of two evils”, or “at least we defeated that far-right candidate”.

        It’s a very simple game.

      • dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
        41·
        3 hours ago

        It’s almost like being a single issue voter is moronic.

        Also, protest votes only hurt everyone and help nobody in a voting system like we have. Look at Brexit: most of those were protest votes against Labour, not actual votes for Brexit. Or look at the votes for Jill Stein in Michigan, where she got more votes than Clinton lost by. Every pregnant woman in the US is at higher risk now because of those protest votes.

        • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          1·
          43 minutes ago

          It’s almost like being a single issue voter is moronic.

          Not killing innocent people is a pretty good single issue, though.

        • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world
          13·
          2 hours ago

          Yeah but when the single issue is genocide? I don’t know, I can understand the moral argument that is always wrong to support that. I can understand not wanting your tax dollars to pay for the death and destruction we’ve been watching for the past year.

          I understand your point, don’t agree with single issue voting in most cases and I also wouldn’t vote third party or encourage anyone to do so BUT I can see the point and lecturing people about Trump does nothing whatsoever to address it.

          Look at Brexit: most of those were protest votes against Labour, not actual votes for Brexit.

          Lol I can only assume you are not British. Protesting Labour in the 6th year of a conservative government for… what exactly? There are a lot of stupid things that led to the Brexit vote but this is not one of them.

          Every pregnant woman in the US is at higher risk now because of those protest votes.

          No. Because the democrats did not win over enough voters to take the presidency. They ran a candidate people didn’t like that much and lost. That is on THEM.