Fellow manjaro users, As you may have heard, our long time contributor and friend Jonathon is no longer part of the Manjaro team. He has been a great asset to the team and over the seven years has done much for packaging, communication with the Arch team and especially for this community. He will be missed. The inciting incident for the conflict eventually leading to this was a hardware purchase for one of the team members, but the disagreement was not caused because the purchase was inappropr...
There’s a huge discrepancy between this post and the post of jonathan. The conflict is clearly not yet resolved. And no, the opposing side being removed (even if it actually voluntarily stepped down) does not resolve the conflict. Because such a conflict is a problem of the organization. Conflicts always happen, but it requires a functioning organization for them to be resolved.
This conflict remaining unresolved up to the point where someone left the organization is the absolutely worst possible outcome and needs to be taken as a point for reflection. You cannot just cover it up and move on. Conflicts will happen again and with members knowing that bringing up a conflict might lead to them losing their job, they’re not going to talk about them. Which does not make those conflicts go away, they’ll rather become worse. Without talking, more people will “voluntarily step down”.
I think it almost would be better if (hypothetically) there were an ethical breach, but they corrected it, spoke openly and were accountable. That would be much less alarming than a case where there was no breach, but they didn’t follow the process and were dismissive about concerns raised - that tells you what they will do when there really is a problem.
Yep, and what’s even worse here, is that the person raising concerns is now gone from the project. They not only showed that they’re atrocious at dealing with these things, they’re also going to be worse at it in the future.
There’s a huge discrepancy between this post and the post of jonathan. The conflict is clearly not yet resolved. And no, the opposing side being removed (even if it actually voluntarily stepped down) does not resolve the conflict. Because such a conflict is a problem of the organization. Conflicts always happen, but it requires a functioning organization for them to be resolved.
This conflict remaining unresolved up to the point where someone left the organization is the absolutely worst possible outcome and needs to be taken as a point for reflection. You cannot just cover it up and move on. Conflicts will happen again and with members knowing that bringing up a conflict might lead to them losing their job, they’re not going to talk about them. Which does not make those conflicts go away, they’ll rather become worse. Without talking, more people will “voluntarily step down”.
Exactly.
I think it almost would be better if (hypothetically) there were an ethical breach, but they corrected it, spoke openly and were accountable. That would be much less alarming than a case where there was no breach, but they didn’t follow the process and were dismissive about concerns raised - that tells you what they will do when there really is a problem.
Yep, and what’s even worse here, is that the person raising concerns is now gone from the project. They not only showed that they’re atrocious at dealing with these things, they’re also going to be worse at it in the future.