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    That’s why we study those systems. We (marxists) didn’t come to realise the nazis were not socialists out of nowhere, we saw what they said about their ideology, how they conducted it, what their class character was for society (the most important criteria), etc.

    Right… that makes sense, though in my view it shouldn’t take an expert to spot an overt fascist.

    That’s why we uphold the USSR, the PRC, the DPRK… but not Nazi Germany or Pol Pot’s Cambodia. Because after studying them in and out (through our own framework, as anyone does) we see how they operated and still operate.

    Hold up, doesn’t the DPRK have forced labour camps? Didn’t they once sentence a western tourist to hard labour for stealing a poster? Again I’m not trying to say the west has never imprisoned people for dumb reasons, but forced labour??? Also China is hardly communist these days, and if I’m frank I feel like they align more closely with 1935 Nazi Germany than any kind of proletariat utopia.

    Only in the imperialist core (the west). During the 20th century, even after Stalin’s death, we saw Cuba, Burkina Faso, Chile, probably others I’m not remembering right now…

    Agreed, sorry I should have been more clear. Still, I wonder how many of those revolutions weren’t a “yay let’s implement a communist utopia” but instead a “hey lets trick the people into supporting our communist revolution”.

    This is also the time of the Cold War, where our information in this core was filtered through the “leader of the free world”, the United States. And to this day when you find people that lived through it on this side, they will tell you (I’m not joking) that the United States is a champion of human rights and liberty. Even in Europe.

    Yeah, it’s a little funny how often people will talk about how the US is some kind of gracious bringer of democracy. Maybe it started after their help in WW2?

    Still, I think it’s fair to argue that the US is at least no worse than China or Russia.




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    Fair enough, I shouldn’t extrapolate - my bad.

    But at the very least it proves how easy it is for the meaning of “communist” to be twisted. Even the Nazi’s called themselves “national socialists” not because they had any remotely socialist policies but because it was popular. Anyone can start and lead a “communist” revolution and then pull a switchreoo at the last moment, and because communism typically involves a “dictatorship of the proletariat” this is exceedingly easy to do.

    To talk further on the topic of education, I agree that communism is probably too underrepresented - but so is anarchism. People tended to loose interest with the communist manifesto after the gulags started; the only people who supported state communism post 1950’s was powergrabbing revolutionaries, and uneducated workers who were smart enough to see its advantages but not enough to see its immense drawbacks.


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    Certainly! But just because some of the criticism they receive is biased against them doesn’t mean it is wholly false, and as I previously stated due to the much greater amount of censorship within those countries it is hard to find reliable opinions to the contrary.


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    So your only successful example is someone who wasn’t successful?

    Okay, well what are your best examples of communist success? Because last time I checked the USSR was dissolved and - as evidenced by Xinjiang and Taiwan - China has pursued a route of fascist imperialism and Sinicization (which is hardly communist).

    Seems like kind of a loser political philosophy.

    This argument has no value and could be applied to literally any political philosophy.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

    In case you got the wrong idea, anarchists are generally not opposed to justified hierarchy. I agree that trains need to have rules in place to stop them smashing into each other, however I sternly argue that that does not necessitate a state. Same thing applies to the cotton mill: if everyone needs to be there at a certain time for the mill to run then without the workers adhering to this rule there can be no cotton produced - but the workers aren’t stupid. They will agree on a time for all of them, and if that time doesn’t work for someone they can just nope out and get some other job, no questions asked. They have no right to force someone to work the cotton mill for the same reason a slaveowner has no right to force someone to work cotton farms, and as such the only reason any authority would be needed would be if you were to force people to run the cotton mills (even if they had other things to do at that times). If someone doesn’t want to help at the cotton mills at that time, then so be it, but its not like he has some divine obligation to do such work.



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    I agree, but it’s not a binary FREE/CENSORED. As long as you aren’t leaking documents you will often be fine, whereas in China/USSR even speaking bad about the party or using the wrong word for “war” can get you in trouble.




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    Doesn’t this violate the whole “don’t be a dick to each other” rule?

    I did my best to phrase this post in a way such as to not attack anyone, morerather the arguments (and also phrase it in a way such that i open the door to discussion instead of “omg i cant stand those people”). If you think at any point I did that wrong, do you mind sharing?

    Stalin’s a hero, the gulags were right, the CPC is on the right side of history, and there is no Uyghur genocide.

    Please tell me you’re trolling and I’m just missing something

    Go back to reading Harry Potter.

    Ironically I’ve never actually read it.


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    I suppose that’s not really true, because western media is often open to bashing them (similarly networks like RT are more than happy to bash the west). I just wish you could find more criticism about a country coming from that same country, to help eliminate a bias against said country. I feel like the Russian censorship laws massively prevent this, and the Great Firewall of China makes it difficult to get a proper picture of what it is actually like there.




  • Regime change looms in UK as a result of the sanctions

    That’s a very misleading title. Partygate is the main cause for all of his controversy, and while the cost of living crisis is certainly a catalyst it is nowhere near enough to get him out on his own. Not to mention, the UK is much in favor of supporting Ukraine, to the point that were there not a Jubilee on in most towns and cities you would see a Ukrainian flag flying alongside - or in replacement of - a British flag.

    To say it is “as a result of the sanctions” though is utter bollocks.



  • Been lurking for a while but made an account to comment on this. My primary concern is that being able to see what other people think of something might mean you don’t bother to read it yourself; downvotes have the same effect however their broadness of why a post might deserve one means you need to actually at least skim through something to see if it’s unhelpful, false or badly-worded such that someone could misinterpret it. Downvotes help guide you when you aren’t able to judge the quality of a comment on your own, emoji reactions could tell you how to feel about a comment before you even read it. If you dislike a post more than a downvote can represent, you need to comment on it to explain why it’s bad, forcing you to write out your thoughts - perhaps collect some sources - and most likely proof read them before you comment. An emoji reaction, however, is literally one click away and one scroll later you probably won’t even be able to remember it. A more abstract and slightly paranoid worry about it is that this was used by Facebook to track people, and implementing it in Lemmy could open the door to an instance making modifications and using this for the same thing. I know that Lemmy isn’t Facebook, but that’s precisely why I would rather not have these.

    However, I do see a use for these in some communities, namely media-based ones where factual discussion is rare and opinionated (e.g. a community where people post drawings, or links to entertaining YouTube videos), for this reason I think it would perhaps be worth considering as an opt-in for some communities. Because comments typically do not contain media, if you do implement in on an opt-in bases it’s probably worthwhile to allow enabling them for posts and comments independently. Some people may also not like them (UI clutter, prejudice, emojiphobia etc) so you should be able to hide them in user settings.

    tl;dr this would make you pre-judge comments and posts, and make people react without explaining their thought process in a reply, however could be nice for some communities as an opt-in