What did me and Saddam even do wrong for goddamn sake, how are we both being chauvinist, patsocs, pro israel, pró settler, or any of all of this other bs? Both me and Saddam where arguing on GOOD FAITH, we never attacked Muad, we never breaked the rules of keeping things civil, HE was the one who started attacking saddam and openlly lied about him defending Israeli settlers, both me and saddam telled us why him saying that was wrong, we never sayed israellis deserve to take land from palestinians, we never where having patriotic burgeoise views of saying we should blindly follow an burgeoise capitalist state out of love for the country, we never sayed we should not decolonize the US or Israel, so tell me, what did we do wrong? I was not even defending Patsoc thinking, i think it has some serious flaws, but the critiscism most people are giving to it just doesnt make sense, i was merely pointing out the flaws. Now please, tell me, what we even did wrong?
First off, you are not even looking at the fact i am not defending patsocs, i am merelly pointing out that most critiscism being made about both caleb and Infrared are not connected with reality, if one thing is actually critiscizing what they are saying, SHOWING actual proff of what they are saying (we can just copypast images on our comments you know) and use that thing they are saying to made an argument, most critiscism being made was vague and did not show any actual proff, it was mostly saying “patsocs are this and that” but it was almost never showing patsocs being “this and that”, and when it showed something, Saddam responded on a very civil manner, never disrespecting nobody, and lots of persons agreed with the fact they themselves did not know a lot about the issue. And Muad being an mod for a very long time is not excuse, lots of members of the USSR worked there their entire lifes and stil commited several errors being led by self interest and personal opinions (this is what we call idealists). And what is even wrong of me downvoting your comment while i am responding to another person? you are also downvoting my post, and who gives a shit about downvoting? its an meaningless bottom that doesnt do anything.
And talking about toxicity, Me and Saddam where not being toxic at all, we where respecting the rules and keeping the diagol civil, we where debating about an issue, and instead of actually debating the issue, you mods are instead banning two people that have never showed any signals of being “xionist colonialist revisionist patsoc etc etc”, and i was simply defending an comrade of mine because Muad oppenly lied about him defending Israeli setlers and that israeli setlers should take palestinian land.