(just to let an certain person know, i made this 3 part rant to resolve this patsoc issue once and for all, i want that this post stays up, and that we can have this conversation, and so the mods can know, i will in fact save the text of all three posts and i will in fact post it again if you decide to delete it, i want to use my rights as an long time user of the community, and the fact this community was made especifically to vent about this stuff, so my rant can stay)

Hello, most of you that are using Lemmygrad.ml for the last months probably know me, and people that where using r/Genzedong during its last months also probably know me; i am an brasillian communist, that only last year did in fact become a communist, i have been an very openly anti-western person, and specially anti US, i have aways tried to mantain myself away from drama, both on r/Genzedong and on here, only posted from time to time, and i enjoyed staying both there, while it lasted, and here, till now.

Now, you might be asking yourself, if you know my account from Lemmygrad.ml, why am i using my lemmy account when i can just use my lemmygrad one? Well, the answer is simple, i got banned. And i was not the only one, an spanish comrade called SaddamHussain also got banned not just some minutes ago.

Now, you might be asking yourself: Why? Why did me and Saddam, 2 communists that have been very active on our community since reddit days have been banned all of a sudden? Well, the answer is not so simple.

Recently, less then half a week ago, some drama was born here on our community, and the main issue was about “patsocs”, everyone here probably knows about this by now, where a bunch of our members started to openly bash those “patsocs” and an very small ammount of members, me and Saddam included, where arguing that all of this hate was very uncalled for, that this hate was an storm on a cup of water, that “patsocs” (or at least the only 2 patsocs everyone know about, Caleb Maupin and Haz, but i will talk about then in just a minute) where not doing anything really harmfull. This clash of ideas that seemed like just an small argumentation at worst, quickly becamed an absolute mess, where on one side comrade SaddamHussain was trying his best at keeping the conversation at an civilized level, the anti-patsoc members quickly started to attack him and his position, constantly calling him an patsoc (when the only times where he considered himself one was to tell he was an patriot, but patriotism will need an little explanation on this context, wich i wll also explain in a bit), he constantly explained in the most civil way his point of view, never attacking anyone verbally, even when he was basically being difamated at some points, while the other members quickly started saying he just hated natives and palestinians, that he was an xionist, an reactionary, an revisionist, an american fascist (when he is not even american), that he was pro-setler and pro colonialism, (wich if you ask me, is some very dumb things to call an communist that calls himself "SaddamHussain, you know, the Iraquian anti-xionist socialist, that called for pan-arabism to unite all arabian countries and end the borders that he declared that where made by foreign colonialism?) and while i did not want to really participate on it, i was simply not able to see such unfairness happening on front of me and not do anything about it. I started responding to some of the comments constantly attacking him, and i gived my own point of view on the situation, keep in mind, i an not american, nor am i a patsoc (i only watched some shorts clips from caleb and thats it) i am very explicity anti-american, anti colonialism, i am an atheist, and much more other things that i dont think would make me even close to an “patsoc”, but some of the “critiscism” being made of both Caleb, SaddamHussain and whatever concept of what “patsocs” even are was so weak, so drived by personal reasons, and specially that it was so god damn badly researched (most people that where asked if they did know who maupin was, or what patsocs even are responded that they did not know), that it was just painfull to watch. Then i started getting involved, but i was not even involved that much, i only writed half a dozen comments trying to defend SaddamHussain. And now i was banned, the comments i writed defending Saddam are being deleted by an certain mod (with i will talk about later), Saddam also got banned and his comments are also getting deleted.

Now that this got out of our way, lets see some quick things: Who is Caleb Maupin, what Patsocs actually are, what is patriotism (from an ML pov) and the very unprofessional way the mr.Mod was acting, lets get started:

Who the fuck is Caleb Maupin? Well, it is kinda of difficult to explain, but by the videos of him that i watched and from the actual info i got about him, Caleb seems to be an american communist that has an organization focused on teaching socialist ideas to the people, and he acts on certain strange ways; He is very acceptive towards most people in general, including conservative and religious people, not because he has the same opinion of them on certain things conservatives think, like abortion, lgbt rights, etc (he is openly pro-abortion and pro-lgbt rights) but because he argues that if we just discard those people that can be explained ml ideas with enough time just because we disagree with them in some certain cultural parts of society, we are basically giving an free card to fascists to influence those people, i personally agree with them, those cultural views never stoped anyone from being communists, Che guevara, Stalin, Fidel Castro, and lots of other communist figures that where created on very conservative societys did have some anti-lgbt views (but they never acted during their goverments against lgbt people, they just haved bad personal opinions about them, with is fine, as long as people that have anti-lgbt views dont openly act on ways that are made to prejudice lgbt people, their personal opinions can be ignored) or where anti-abortion (while in some cases, some communist leaders, like Stalin or Ceaucesco, only did that because they where worried about bad birth rates, or because of the severe punch the population got after several wars, and in some cases there where leaders that prohibited it because of religious views, on both cases we know now that they acted on incorrect ways, and we should not repeat their errors). Now, a lot of anti-patsoc people might think this means me and Caleb are anti-lgbt rights and anti-abortion, but its not the case, we are just saying that the people that think on that way can still be accepted, as long they keep that to themselves, simple as that, several people here (including anti-patsoc ones) think on this way, so why shame Caleb, me and people trying to defend him? Another view of Caleb that annoyed some people are the fact he likes to use some simbols of american history that have some very bad history behind them as an way to atract the most common people, like the US flags, the founding fathers, etc. Now, this is an tricky position, but i get what he is trying to do, appeasing to the patriots of the country and trying to explain to them an better way to love their country, now, every country has patriot simbols, and most of those simbols are conservative, and because they are conservative, they generally carry some messages that should have stayed in the past, BUT, hear me out, sometimes using those simbols to atract people to the cause can be helpfull, conservatives might not be the best persons to try to convince communism is better then capitalism, but we got to understand, they are the majority, and having at least part of the majority on OUR side instead of the other side, you know, the ones with fascists and nazis armed to the teeth, can be an MASSIVE difference, Imagine if Fidel Castro refused to use the most common people that he could find after the beggining of the invasion was an absolute disaster and he lost almost his entire crew? Hell imagine if che Guevara refused to help fidel because basically his entire crew (with the exception of Raul) was not communist, hell an considerable ammount was even anti communist! imagine if Mao refused to add the farmer population to the communist cause, because most of them where conservatives, or did not like communism because they where told communism is something extremelly bad. You see? Having a close mind when you need allies to fight an extremelly dangerous, much more well prepared, much more influent, and hundreds of times bigger then you, is an recipe to absolute disaster, you become an Gonzalo, or an Pol pot, someone that goes and kick people out of partys for minor things, or kill innocent people instead of convincing them for simple, minor things. The last, and probably the most polemical thing people know about maupin,

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