Basically I am looking for a messaging platform like signal or? but with anonymous signup, perfect forward secrecy, capable of video chat, sending photos the usual uses in today’s life. But with a panic button. So that any party member could use said button to wipe all other members devices of any data instantly inside the messaging app. So if one member gets compromised, or lost their device, stolen device ect, any other member could wipe all chats, call log, and any other data strictly inside the messaging client instantly for everyone involved. Disolving the group like it never existed rendering the data unrecoverable. Amazons Wickr used to have most of these features but it is being discontinued December 2023 and who trusts amazon with their data. Does something like this exist? Sorry if I’m not explaining it well I’ll do my best to clarify and update this post. I am not trying to delete the whole device. Just the data inside the messaging app. If that does not exist. What about a separate app that could delete the entire messaging platform from the device when triggered. Assume all necessary requirements are met and this is for daily use. Between a group of trusted parties.

Updated wording to clarify the objective as replies where getting misunderstood.

  • GravitySpoiledEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    You can use matrix/element and if someone loses her phone, you can remove her from the room. The room will disappear from the other phone if it’s connected to the internet

    • OhVenus_BabyOP
      21·
      1 year ago

      I’ve been interested in looking at matrix due to its decentralyzed nature, and self host capability. But as much as I love to self host certain things. Self hosting isn’t always the shining example its portrayed as. That comes with its own security/privacy flaws. I will do some reading on matrix and learn about the features. Thanks for shedding some light on the actual topic at hand.

      Edit for matrix info which can be found here for those wanting to learn more. -> https://matrix.org

      • GravitySpoiledEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        You don’t have to selfhost. You can use anyone’s server. It’s all e2e. The social graph may be visible. Selfhosting is easy. Look for an install with docker.

        • OhVenus_BabyOP
          11·
          1 year ago

          Will do thanks. I don’t care about social graph being visible so long as there isn’t identifiable info during sign up. I’d much rather self host as needed. But what if matrix was self hosted on a hostile network. Under VPN from both sides. Say matrix was running from a hotel WiFi. How would one secure the service.

          • GravitySpoiledEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            I don’t care about social graph being visible so long as there isn’t identifiable info during sign up. well said

            you can also look into hosted services like EMS but I don’t know if you have to provide identifiable info.

            But what if matrix was self hosted on a hostile network.

            it’s all encrypted on the client -> e2e. even if it was http and no SSL

            Say matrix was running from a hotel WiFi.

            you have to provide a domain, I’m not sure how easy it would be to run it without and only locally on a LAN. IT’s possible but the experience wont be good. you also can’t federate. It’s much easier to use a hosted server.

            How would one secure the service.

            the same way like you’d do it with a publicly exposed host.

            BUT I think I’d go with p2p matrix before going the LAN route.

            Here’s a p2p matrix built https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1uK_BcHGiAYHkN6OAA7P73obAquwShRg5

            look into the matrix room for more info p2p:matrix.org.