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        Wrong, they will just go back to getting angry on Twitter on their phones. They have no revolution capabilities. Everytime I see this signature thing, it feels like slacktivism. It does not help organise, its just a “civilised” way of screaming at ruling class.

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          This holds true as long as people are relatively comfortable. As material conditions continue to erode, people are start getting pissed and we’ll see a lot more people on the streets.

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            There needs to be way more erosion of that imperialist loot privilege in order for that to happen. Paycheck bill struggle is not enough, people need to feel the pitch black hollowness of ruling class, and from that anger they need to not become INGFASH, and actually become revolutionaries. Considering that they are surrounded all these decades with anti-communist rhetoric, that is a lot of conditions for things to go the correct way.

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              It’s definitely going to be a process, but at this point I don’t even care what happens in the west to be honest. It’s isolating itself from the rest of the world, and rapidly losing its ability to project power and dominate countries. The rest of humanity will move on, and if people in western countries want to live the way they do then power to them.

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                You know, I often have had this thought. A little unhinged if you will, but you could answer it. There is something about Russian participation in Western tech development, and a lot of it in places like Western internet tech and gaming culture, like gaming mods, pirated software, a lot of preservation of old games, and stuff. Westerners have appreciated it. I cannot make sense of it in words, but people have cross participated so much between USA/Europe countries and Russia over the internet during the 2000s until 2016 or so.

                Why are we here, and how did this openness of digital culture fall apart? Or am I just being too nostalgic softie and insensitive? It just feels so weird, and I have always wondered if old enough Russian culture/society folks have had this kind of outlook as I do.

                Have you participated long term digitally into tech forum space and old style games/mods communities in this manner to have thoughts about this? The internet historian grandpa in me makes me over think and deepdive into thinking these things a lot.

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                  I’ve wondered about this before as well. I recall that people in Russia really looked up to the west after USSR collapsed, and everybody was very hopeful thinking that Russia would be integrated into the western system and life would improve. Most people didn’t really understand what capitalism was, and didn’t expect the west to act in a predatory way towards Russia.

                  I haven’t participated much in the old games/mods communities myself, but I’ve done a bunch of open source work and connected with a lot of people across the world that way.

                  The promise of the internet was that it allowed people all across the world to connect with each other and build relationships. I suspect that ultimately this didn’t translate into high enough level of connections in general public to make a difference. Niche groups of people who established relationships and understanding, but majority of the people remained insular within their cultures.

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    As much as I want to see this comprador regime gone, this organization are what we’ve been calling “Querdenker” : cross-thinkers. In other words, they’re reactionary conspiracy theorists. People who think vaccines are an evil new world order population control conspiracy, these are people who think covid never existed and was simply used as an excuse to take “totalitarian” control of the people.

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      The biggest tragedy in the west is that the right and conspiracy nuts have largely monopolized anti war debate. All the liberal and anarchist “left” is firmly pro war right now.

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        I guess the question is, what’s worse? Some sort of peace being achieved thanks to these right wing dipshits, or support for Nazis who shell paramedics tending to wounded civilians by “leftists”. Frankly, “leftism” is a meaningless term imo. All I see is two different groups of fascists arguing with one another, about who they hate more.

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          Then it should be easier to say who’s worse - the ones actively supporting war, propagating imperialism and pushing the world to nuclear annihiliation.

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            I agree. It’s not like the West is still even pretending to take pandemics seriously anyway, our governments have all capitulated to the virus and stopped trying to do anything about it so it makes no difference anymore whether we enter into temporary alliances with anti-vax conspiracy theory morons. We’re going to be left to die for the profits of the corporate elites either way. At this point the anti-war cause is more important.