I was in a kerfuffle with a western “leftist” on discord. I was once on a server called “socialism” but then i got kicked for being a “tankie”, but that’s not the point of this. When I asked about where “democratic socialism”, which is more of an us-not-them word than anything imo, worked out, they pointed to Gadaffiist Libya. What would be a good response to that?

  • Devin
    13·
    3 years ago

    Does china actually have socialism?

      • Devin
        33·
        3 years ago

        But don’t they have private ownership?

        • The Free PenguinOP
          51·
          3 years ago

          The US has the Bourgeoisie in the high ranks of the government. China doesn’t. The Chinese gov’t has strict regulations. China does not want a bourgeoisie, The USA does. China just keeps them out of necessity.

          • Devin
            44·
            3 years ago

            So it isn’t socialism?

            • The Free PenguinOP
              3·
              3 years ago

              Yes, it is. If China were capitalist, all these people who got too power hungry wouldn’t be arrested.

              • Devin
                31·
                3 years ago

                But isn’t socialism about the workers owning the means of production. If there’s still plenty of private ownership of the means of production, isn’t that not socialism?

                • Makan@lemmygrad.ml
                  1·
                  3 years ago

                  If there’s a democracy in China with the vanguard of the proletariat in power, it is socialism.

                  • Devin
                    2·
                    3 years ago

                    So anyone can run and vote for who they want?