I was in a kerfuffle with a western “leftist” on discord. I was once on a server called “socialism” but then i got kicked for being a “tankie”, but that’s not the point of this. When I asked about where “democratic socialism”, which is more of an us-not-them word than anything imo, worked out, they pointed to Gadaffiist Libya. What would be a good response to that?

    • Devin
      33·
      3 years ago

      But don’t they have private ownership?

      • The Free PenguinOP
        51·
        3 years ago

        The US has the Bourgeoisie in the high ranks of the government. China doesn’t. The Chinese gov’t has strict regulations. China does not want a bourgeoisie, The USA does. China just keeps them out of necessity.

        • Devin
          44·
          3 years ago

          So it isn’t socialism?

          • The Free PenguinOP
            3·
            3 years ago

            Yes, it is. If China were capitalist, all these people who got too power hungry wouldn’t be arrested.

            • Devin
              31·
              3 years ago

              But isn’t socialism about the workers owning the means of production. If there’s still plenty of private ownership of the means of production, isn’t that not socialism?