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  • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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    My main issue with this is that COVID hurt the west much more than it did China and surely US officials would have known that would happen, right? I don’t doubt that they’re depraved enough to have developed undisclosed biological weapons tho.

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      The US doesn’t seem to accurately anticipate blowback in their schemes, I don’t see why Covid would be any different. Take the “current situation” for example, they thought sanctions would cripple Russia and oust Putin and they have done neither. As well the sanctions clearly backfired on the EU and US.

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        True, but sanctions are something that America imposes often and they’re usually successful at devastating a country so I don’t think it’s comparable.

        Like, in America’s ideal world, what were they aiming for? To create a world with an unmanageably diseased population?

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          I think the Amerikkkan capitalists figured that sacrificing the lives of millions is the preferred outcome to China surpassing them.

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            But that’s the thing - in the situation where the disease was so dangerous that even China couldn’t handle it, what’s America gonna do? Their own country would have collapsed a hundred times over by then.

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          That’s just not true. The stated goal of sanctions is regime change. Yet Cuba or DPRK have been under sanctions for decades with no effect in that regard.

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            And then there’s Zimbabwe, Libya, Iraq, Nicaragua, Yugoslavia, etc.

            Those 2 countries are an exception and even then, they still face immense pressure from getting sanctioned. I wouldn’t say they’ve had no effect, they’ve definitely fueled civil unrest and caused crises.

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              I’m not denying that, but clearly there was no regime change. And in the countries you mention there was war necessary for that.

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                  That those are different things. Can’t be so hard to understand.

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                    Me: sanctions hurt countries

                    You: two sanctioned countries haven’t been couped yet

                    Me: just because they haven’t been couped doesn’t mean they haven’t been hurt

                    You: yeah but they haven’t been couped yet

                    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to communicate here. Or how any of this relates to the topic of this thread.