• @grue@lemmy.world
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    888 months ago

    Holy shit, how bad does it have to be that Facebook doesn’t even make the list?!

    • @Nurgle@lemmy.world
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      78 months ago

      Google seems front and center too after the recent “privacy” updates to chrome (the web browser with 2/3 the global market share).

    • @LeLachs
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      48 months ago

      What did Spotify do to deserve a spot?

      • @BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        Oh boy, a whole lot. I was compiling a list, but it turns out that Spotifys shady business practices has a whole wikipedia page. Not sure if it’s included in there but Joe Rogan. Just everything about the Joe Rogan deal. As well as their ties to the military industrial complex. It’s less “what have they done?” and more “what haven’t they done?”

        • Wild Bill
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          38 months ago

          What music platforms would you suggest as an alternative? Apple Music can’t be that much better, can it?

          • @BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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            38 months ago

            Tidal is pretty popular, they at least pay artists more. There’s a couple other recommendations I’ve seen floating around on lemmy but the names are escaping me atm. I don’t think there’s any services out there with clean hands tbh, but limiting the harm from your consumption is better than doing nothing about it

            • Wild Bill
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              18 months ago

              Your comment actually inspired me to try the free trial for Tidal and I really like it. In the future I might switch over to it from Spotify, at least they seem to pay artists better.

      • TheCaconym [any]
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        8 months ago

        Spotify is a DRM-infested despicable hellhole

        And one that platforms fash or fash-adjacent imbeciles

      • @Microw@lemm.ee
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        18 months ago

        Destroying artist’s livelihoods, for one thing. Shady business practices, for the other.

    • @BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.ee
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      28 months ago

      I guess Facebook is bad for it’s… Well general shittiness… But they did invent react which a lot of the good parts of the internet use

    • Dudewitbow
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      108 months ago

      Well the camera one doesnt technically have to be capitalism.

    • @PilferJynx@lemmy.world
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      -38 months ago

      Greed. Taking more than equilibrium. People focus on the apparatus but not the source. We don’t need to change the system we need to change human nature.

      • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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        Oh shut up. If human nature is based on greed because you see people taking more than they need, then it’s equally if not more based on mutual aid, since you have doubtlessly also seen people sacrifice their own desires and needs for the love of others. Why is one human nature, but not the other?

        Where is greed in open source? Where is greed in volunteer work?

        • @PilferJynx@lemmy.world
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          You’ve missed the point. The structures of our society is emergent from human will. Greed is a blunt word for an aspect of collective human will. I didn’t imply it was the only one, ya dummy.

          • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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            38 months ago

            Then a society based on cooperation would also be an expression of human nature, and a much better one.

            • @PilferJynx@lemmy.world
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              28 months ago

              I apologize for calling you a dummy. It was just a response to you telling me to shut up. I wholly agree, society based on on cooperation and the nurturing of that cooperation would be great. We should identify and implement changes to our human nature to foster such a ideal. We need trust and transparency and the removal of our levels of separation for a start, I think. I dunno, what are your thoughts?

              • @irmoz@reddthat.com
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                38 months ago

                I apologise for saying to shut up. I just feel strongly that us humans cannot be defined by greed. I agree with transparency and the removal of artificial divisions, such as race, nationality and class. And i also believe the only way we can achieve this is with a worldwide revolution. I believe such a thing is totally possible, but exceedingly unlikely.

          • @tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            The structures of society are created by human will, but the structures in place and the interactions they require also shape our values as cultures. Capitalism is a system in which by owning capital, wealth and the means of production, a capitalist derives profit from the workers who are the producers using the tools and facilities owned by the capitalist. To be successful in this, or to raise yourself above the working class, you must own capital and use it to derive profit to increase your capital further, or else other capitalists will take your place in the market.

            Capitalism and market based economies have only been a part of the global structure for a small minority of the total time that humans have created societies. There are thousands of years we have very little information of, making it difficult to derive what sort of social structures were in place in different societies.

            In the absence of pressures like poverty and economic competition, people help each other. When someone trips in front of you, the vast majority of people will be concerned and help them up. I truly believe altruism is a core aspect of ‘human nature’ as much or more than greed.

      • @CordanWraith@aussie.zone
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        18 months ago

        Unfortunately they’re not directly comparable though. Godot is missing a lot of tooling when it comes to 3D, especially compared with Unity.

        • @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de
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          18 months ago

          Good reason for a dev to start contributing to godot. Be the change you want to see. In open source it is even actually possible.

          • @CordanWraith@aussie.zone
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            18 months ago

            I can’t argue with you there, but the engine code is also significantly more complex than the project code, and I’m not too familiar with how to create it. But, you raise a good point that it’s time to learn.

            • @Haui@discuss.tchncs.de
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              28 months ago

              Thank you. I am only a hobby dev but I‘m also considering contributing to the projects I use for my home lab. It’s quite intimidating as I‘m not proficient in any language but I‘ll give it a go at some point.

    • @Cargon
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      108 months ago

      The key is focus your time and effort on the ones that are really important to you, and be able to adapt to changes. This way you can make the switch to a less abusive product / platform / tool / whatever it is more easily when it inevitably goes to shit.

      This is the user-side responsibility of interoperability.

  • _haha_oh_wow_
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    68 months ago

    The Internet is way older than the majority of these things, but I still appreciate the spirit of your post.

  • @ZWho63OP
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    58 months ago

    Post in the comments additions to my list; I wanted to add more but I missed some.

  • Justas🇱🇹
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    38 months ago

    Whenever something or someone appears on the internet they have a grace period where small mistakes are forgotten and bigger ones are forgiven, but eventually the time runs out and everybody will hate you.