Maybe silly but at my Korean classes there’s a seemingly “apolitical” guy working in IT who plans to work in China’s IT sector and we talked a bit about it. Just talked about how it’s exciting but wishes it was less difficult for him to go, that they’re making huge leaps in the IT field etc. Just nice to have a convo about it without Uyghurs or muh political freedoms or whatever coming up.

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    One of my friends is from Hong Kong and he talks about China like it’s a normal country, how disgusting of him. Wants to go there once to work in IT as well. Or to improve his Kantonese and Mandarin.

    On a serious note, many people with non-Western roots think like this. Almost as if Western propaganda is targeted at a certain audience.

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    I work two jobs and speak to a wide variety of 99% working class people in both. When the topic of China comes up I find that most people have neutral or even positive view of the country. Talking to people only on Twitter or whatever would definitely make you think otherwise.

    The ones who have a negative view are usually the types to watch some stupid probably fascist youtube and think they suddenly understand economics and go on about how China is collapsing soon cause of covid lockdowns or some shit. Even then I’ve had a lot of success just pointing out that US media can’t be trusted on the issue.

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      All the American liberals around me in my experience get uncomfortable if I so much as praise China’s rail infrastructure and seem to think that Uyghurs have been poured into the concrete or something.

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    Whenever I mention my respect for Cuba and my desire to meet the country and people are normal about it 👌👍👌👍👌👍

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      Turns out if you actually talk to regular people and mention you’re a marxist they don’t automatically call you tankie tinyman square winnieh the pooh and instead actually listen to what you say.

      Crazy stuff going on outside of Twitter

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        On a more serious note, it’s actually true.

        I had to present my assignment with my life story today in which I mention Marx as my inspiration, and people are actually interested and want to read what Marx has said.

        Sometimes I get so caught up in the online world that I forget that people can actually listen to what you say.

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          Sometimes I get so caught up in the online world that I forget that people can actually listen to what you say.

          I feel that very much, comrade. Lol. Especially since I don’t really meet and interact with people that often. In my limited experience, most people IRL will listen at least to some degree.

          When I started explaining Marx to my mother she got more and more curious about it and eventually I offered her to read some of Marx’s works and told her that she can ask me questions on things she doesn’t understand. Started with the Communist Manifesto, then Wagelabour and Capital and now we’re at Capital chapter 1. Her background is as prole as you can imagine, and when she was little she got fed anti-communist propaganda from all sides. But despite that she still was undecided and identified herself as “apolitical”. Now she’s a comrade.

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      I think so… it’s weird, maybe it’s just because it’s “polite company” or whatever but even in my Korean classes the most negative reaction my teachers have to mentions of DPRK is sort of a confused whimsy or mild disagreements, same from my classmates. I’m sure they’ve all got ideas in their head about it, but nobody’s said the kind of heinous bullshit I see online.

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    I fucking hate it when there’s a picture or video about traditional Chinese art or folklore (which I’m trying to rediscover after moving out of China as a kid) and all the fucking comments are regurgitated Western-narrative bullshit about the See Sea Pee.

    Yeah, I’m sure they existed when that piece of pottery was made or that folklore started circulating. And for all the Orientalists saying “oh woe how communism has destroyed China! The age of whatever ancient Chinese thing the post was talking about was China’s golden age!” I’m sure the ancient imperial government who literally cut off the dick and balls of male servants (not a joke, they did that) and enforced foot binding for women was the epitome of human rights and definitely prioritized the people.

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    To restore balance, every time you see someone regurgitate western sinophobic propaganda on China on an inherently nonpolitical thing about China, you need to go to something nonpolitical about Europe and mention colonialism, the holocaust, Brexit, and their ongoing shitty treatment of the Romani pepople, then to something nonpolitical about the US and mention colonialism, stolen land, refugees in cages, going bankrupt for a hospotal visit, most school shootings of any country, highest wage gap of any country, most covid deaths of any country, highest per capita incarceration rates of any country, private prisons, Roe v. Wade, and their ongoing shitty treatment of Indigenous peoples and people of colour.