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      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I sort of look at them as amusement. It’s not like what they want will happen In our lifetimes (or ever probably). I don’t necessarily get why everyone hates them, just try looking at them as funny content lol

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        You must not have seen the amount of genocide denial they do, or the amount of simping for dictators.

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          What’s weird is that I don’t remember the Chapo guys doing any of that, they seem pretty solidly democratic socialist.

          I guess that’s what happens when you let your community mods be Putin bots or whatever dumbfuckery went on.

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            It’s also what happens when you lock yourself in an echo chamber for long enough, you views will drift.

            But the Chapo crowd always had tendencies towards brigading and whatnot which is why Reddit eventually deleted their sub.

            Plus the Chapo crowd were firmly “Bernie or Bust,” which was a pretty shit view at the time.

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              They are the best example what happens when people are locked in their echo chamber. They are radicalizing themselves to the point of absurdity. The statements they make are so illogical its hard to even have a discussion about it, because they literally deny truisms.

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          I genuinely don’t understand why the admins are dragging ass and not just defederating from them already. They provide nothing of value, just spam and harassment.

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            Because if memory serves both Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad share some admins with each other

            And with Lemmygrad and Hexbear loving each other: federation is going to stay a thing over here

            One of the things I love about the instance I’m on is that we’re defederated from Hexbear, it’s pretty nice NGL

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            Because you’re on a tankie instance. Go to sopuli.xyz; the admin banned all extremists left and right so it’s smooth sailing.

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                wanna-be-edgy teenager who unironically wears Che Guevara t-shirts, mostly.

                Also the kind that say anything western is the devil, and anything Russian and/or Chinese is the great saviour/perfection/whatever other bullshit.

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              Welp, tried to delete my account and fuck off from this place due to that knowledge, but apparently account deletion doesnt work. so I’m just fuckin off.

              Thanks for the info, made the decision easier.

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        You can block specific instances on an account level? Tell me more please.

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          Under settings there is a tab called “block”, which allows you to block users and entire communities

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            Hum sadly on my client that option isn’t there. I can only block communities or users. Can’t block whole instances. :(

            Might consider changing client :)

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        They have a few instances that are oddly informative. I’m a leftist so I want that kind of news but I really hate their tankie bs.

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        Im so radicalized, I might vote Neoliberally, woahhhh~ i make compromises with existing powers, oooooo~ I understand that people with different views than me can be reasonable people, ooooh~ spooky ghost hands

        Hexbear is naïve, clinging to foundational theory without understanding the basic tenant of people. If you adopt a lick of psychology or sociology, you quickly understand how no one theory ever solves anything, and antagonizing people into your movement is not a way to turn hearts.

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    Well I’m glad Hexbears have stopped spamming pig testicles at least. But. First impressions mean a lot and they did not make a good one.

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      Their most obnoxious members really need to learn how to proselytize because they’re their own worst enemy.

      You don’t lead with the crazy genocide denial, you lead with pointing out stuff like Churchill genociding 3 million Indians with the Bengal famine, or that South Korea was a fascist state before the Korean war.

      Oh, look, so was Vietnam.

      Oh, weird, so was etc etc etc etc

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        South Korea only fascist before the war. Definitely wasn’t a fascist pseudo dictatorship until like what year is it?.. I think they’re still electing people related to the former dictators or in that weird cult shit. South Korea is like that super crazy cousin you have, that you forget about because their quiet and don’t call you very often.

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          They were fascist until their President-For-Life type guy was assassinated by a member of the KCIA in 1979. He was definitely supported in some manner by the American CIA but just a couple years later Reagan would put a stop to all that “fighting fascism” business.

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        Every person who read the comments on a thread deserved it? The replies being public ruins that excuse.

        I am assuming PBB is some acronym for pig bollocks.

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          PPB is an acronym for Pig Poop Balls.

          It is a gag dated back to the Dark Days of Reddit, where there were regular posts about, “Well, actually, homelessness is good in the free market pee pee poo poo I am very intelligent.”

          As they were not engaging in good faith, we, too, chose not to engage in good faith. Thus, we sent them photos of a prize hog defecating on his own testicles. The tradition of sending PPB to bad faith actors carries on to the present day.

          It is very funny.

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            No, you just use it against anyone who doesn’t immediately agree with you on everything, and now you are the bad faith actor, and you’ve made being a bad faith actor more important than genuinely helping any progressive causes.

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          You’re acting like it’s gore or something. It’s literally just poop. Gross, maybe, but not really that offensive. Certainly not as disgusting as liberal takes on homelessness, bombing 3rd world countries, sacrificing lives for capitalism, etc.

          And unlike those, a pig pooping on their own balls never hurt anyone.

          PIGPOOPBALLS

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              I just saw it, you sent me this link:

              https://hexbear.net/post/613387

              which contains a screenshot of this comment:

              https://lemm.ee/comment/3622601

              where /u/randint complains that hexbear admin /u/TomboyShulk dismissed his complaints about three other comments, which he then links to.

              The three comments are all from the same 22 day old thread, and his engagement with the thread starts here:

              https://hexbear.net/comment/3829077

              There are two pieces of context I think ought to be mentioned:

              • “post hog” and other “post your dick” variants are a canned /r/ChapoTrapHouse response against any user who seems like an unusually odious or bad faith wrecker or reactionary, like a rebuttal to 4chan’s “tits or gtfo”. It started when a neo-nazi went on CTH to spout race science but was mocked into posting his dick, which defused the guy completely; at the time, the subreddit was getting a lot of people like that, and “post hog” became one of the go-to responses because it was low-effort and it shut them down. It bewildered and frustrated people who were there say awful things or make users feel unsafe.

              • /u/randint has been on a crusade against hexbear for fucking weeks. He goes out of his way to stir shit and has explicitly admitted that his aim is to make the site look bad. Increasingly frustrated hexbears pointed out his bad faith engagement in the thread I linked. He goes about it in a bloodless, polite-sounding way, but he’s not there with good intentions. Only at the very end of the thread, deep in the exchange, did anyone give him the canned response, and it made him leave.

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                Ok, the deep lore of “post your hog” makes sense, and I honestly don’t think I can argue against sexually harassing a literal Neo-Nazi. Let the kid gloves come off.

                But it is straight up sexual harassment. Yeah, it shuts people down quickly and easily, that’s literally what sexual harassment was designed for. And it’s not being reserved for Nazis, it’s being used liberally and the community and moderators foster an atmosphere that encourages sexual harassment of outsiders.

                And to be fair, I see there’s outside actors acting in bad faith. But sexual harassment is either okay in a community, or it isn’t. You can’t blame a pro-sexual-harassment environment on a bad faith outside actor. And when sexual harassment has been normalized, how much space do you really have to complain about other people being bad faith actors?

                The really terrible thing is that I don’t think Hexbear is even capable of having a good faith discussion about sexual harassment, with itself. If anyone was to point out the issue, the mods and most prolific posters would not be able to take it seriously and nothing would change.

                In unixporn someone brought to light that the traditional term “ricing” had racist origins, and there was a little pushback, but by and large the community accepted that the term will be removed and banned. The community learned, and changed.

                I have 0% expectation that Hexbear community is capable of listening, or changing.

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                  i think it’s a fucking massive leap to characterize hexbear as a “pro-sexual harassment” environment. You can argue that they are overzealous in who they consider nazis sometimes, but multiple hexbears earlier in the thread did call /u/randint a nazi apologist for defending Adrien Zenz, so it’s clear they considered him a fair target. Hexbear users see hog posting as punching upward at privileged bullies and reactionaries they are powerless against in real life. You can dispute that view, you might even consider them delusional or self-indulgent, but I think it’s an enormous leap to conclude that they are generally in favor of sexual harassment of people.

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          Someone forgot to remove their dog’s testicles once. It was a very harassing experience. Then I walked through the woods and saw a deer. It turned away and proceeded to harass me. Then I saw a pig and he said:

          image

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              Actually I’ve got an argument that I think you’ll really appreciate:

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                I think I can see communism right there under the balls. It’s the dirty spec covered in pig shit.

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        You sent it to everyone who said anything you didn’t like day one of you federating. Lemmy.ml news and politics communities basically just became a toxic waste dump for a month and a half because hexbears thought people weren’t left enough, or thinking that Russia invading Ukraine was bad.

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              Your principled critic

              Our bad faith argument

              shrug-outta-hecks you don’t agree with us. Don’t pretend like it’s anything different.

              I don’t see how the baby bieng thrown out cliche applies. We see libs parroting bullshit we reply, there’s no baby to be thrown out when it comes to libs and their propaganda or brainworms

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                Don’t know your specific beliefs but no in all liklihood I don’t agree with you. I don’t think I even remotely preteneded that. We probably agree on some things but I expect our over arching political beliefs are going to be at odds.

                Just for my knowledge is a liberal anyone who isn’t a Marxist-leninist? Are Fascists Liberals under your definition?

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                  No, just liberals are liberals. People who ultimately support capital and liberal democracy. You don’t have to be ML. Hexbear is non-sectarian, but we expect internationalist, anti-capitalist, and supportive of intersectional struggle from people on the actual left.

                  Fascism is basically capital abandoning liberalism to defend itself from socialism. So, fascists arent liberals. But sometimes when they get scratched the fash does comes out. Ask the average lib about the homeless, or Roma for european libs.

                  If you care more about how we agrue than what we’re argueing about then you don’t agree with us on anything you wouldn’t abandon in a heartbeat

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            nice whataboutism!

            of course we came in an acted like dickheads, we didn’t agree with your opinion

            Petulant children, mentally and philosophically.

            Now hexbears, this is your time to do what you do best; downvote this comment, type a reply and then delete it! I see at least one of you know the routine.

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    All I’ve seen from Hexbear is class consciousness shit, but everybody else has made it the key point of their online existence to rage on them and do all the garbage they accuse hexbear of. 🤷

    Sorry y’all can’t adequately explain why giving every cent of the economy to three people is a good thing.

    EDIT: I hear what people are saying but it sounds like, from my limited experience of looking at posts pushed to me from there, that people are using the actions of a few to discredit the beliefs and opinions of everyone they disagree with.

    EDIT2: LOL @ the people calling me names then blocking me for disagreeing with them. Thought that was Hexbear did, not you EnLigHtEnEd TyPeS JFC 😂

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        The ones about how America will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?

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          No I mean your disgusting uninformed coments that don’t value life at all and make fun out of people that are fighting for their lives.

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            Per the other reply to you, you might recall when I went over our consensus perspective on Ukraine, how it is motivated by understanding the best possible outcome for Ukrainian lives and contrasting this with the bloodthirsty liberal approach you’ve supported (all dressed up in “concern”).

            Is it the “uninformed” and life-devaluing comments you’re referring to?

            Tell me, what was your reply to that explanation?

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              Your best possible outcome is far bloodier than anything I have in mind. You are just too stupid to see it. You are naive and don’t even see you are shoulder to shoulder with the worst people. Maybe check yourself every now and then.

              Im replying in general, I blocked hexbear instance then and had no desire to go through same dumb discussion I have been through before and got the same faulty and illogical arguments. So I dont know what comment you are referring to. I’d be glad to see it if it’s not the same old shit again. And it is, isn’t it?

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                I love the combination of insults and degrading what I said while suggesting you never even read it (as you announced you were blocking the instance. Incidentally, instance-level blocking wasn’t possible at the time, to my knowledge. That’s part of Lemmy v0.19.x.

                But not to worry! I’ll just share what I said with you again. Be sure to explain how it’s uninformed, stupid, and devalues Ukrainian lives! I’m just too big of a dum-dum to figure it out.


                whataboutism

                It points out the double standards westerners gladly accept in order to favor themselves and disadvantage others. How hollow the rhetoric is. How much rides on accepting propaganda, such as adopting the term “whataboutism” as a way to deflect from valid criticism. That’s an old cold war term you picked up, probably from society in general, but it was propaganda to help ensure Soviet criticisms of double standards could be dismissed by Amerikkkans.

                Minsk 2, like we don’t know Russian army went in there with heavy weapons in 2014 and sponsored separatists

                The form of this argument is “whataboutism” btw, lol.

                But anyways, Russia’s presence in 2014 was at best covert and there’s little evidence. They did provide some supplies. However, why would this contradict any points made about Minsk 2? Anyone familiar with the diplomatic efforts knows that the West was far more brutal and aggressive, targeting civilians in Donbas, and repeatedly avoided diplomatic solutions. The (ignorant) rallying cry seems to be that Russia should have unilaterally done everything even while the West did nothing and even escalated. They didn’t even honor ceasefires.

                that by helping the attacked invaded country, the west is somehow making it worse?

                “Helping” is doing the heavy lifting in this sentence. If it’s making the situation worse, it isn’t helping, is it? The “it” matters. The “it” from the West is weapons, loans, and auctioning off the country to Western corporate interests. The latter two get called “aid” even though they throw the poorest country in Europe into deep debt and exploitation. The former is weapons, it is direct support for the war, and whether that is “helping” depends on your understanding of where this war is going, what the realistic outcomes are, and what unexplored alternatives exist to propping up the UA military.

                The simple version is that UA is fucked. It is not going to win and “reconstruction”, if it ever comes from the West, will come at the price of foreign ownership, low wages, and further stripped social safety nets. Since it will lose, the question is really: how long do you want this to go on? How many Ukeainians do you want dead? I want none. The US government will accept any number so long as it hurts Russia. Do you accept any amount of dead Ukrainians so long as it hurts Russia? I don’t. I want those people alive.

                Sending weapons just ensures more and more Ukrainians dying so that the West can “stick it” to Russia. Not so that UA will win. Not so that the outcome is better. So that the outcome is objectively worse, so long as it’s “hurting the right people”. And all the while, the less horrible options are kept off the table, which is to say, diplomacy. Both by simply avoiding or preventing talks as early as March last year, but by ensuring the Western populace is unable to accept diplomacy at this point. This is why they tell you UA is winning, that Russians are subhuman monsters, etc etc. So that you support endless violence and think diplomacy is a bad idea.

                This is also all before we get to the MIC, which drives war to fill its pockets. This is another of the real reasons the “helping” is happening: so that Lockheed-Martin can sell more weapons, keep more millions, all while children are plunged back into poverty. They steal from our children and our lives so that more Russians and Ukrainians may die, and there’s always a new target of the violence ready to go for these bloodthirsty monsters.

                Had you decided to listen rather than throw a tantrum, you might have learned these things.

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                  So what you have is the same things all over again? Why are you doubling down on your own stupidity?

                  Whataboutism is of course not a way to deflect any criticism. It’s a fallacy. Double standard? What are you 5? Of course there is a double standard. Damn, you should get a medal for being last to arrive.

                  About Minsk 2 is not whataboutism because it refers to the same actual thing. That’s not how it works. There is more than enuguh evidence for Russian army supporting seperatists and going into donbas themselves. You speak of the west a lot like there is an entity called " the west". You are so naive, it shows you no idea at all how diplomacy and international relations with work.

                  I dont even know where to start explaining it to you, but for sure I don’t have enough time. Let me just point out the faults in your reasonings:

                  Ukraine is fighting for itself. There is no evil west there. They are fighting am occupying army. They would do it either way, if they got the help from anyone or not. They are just doing it far better with better weapons. If they didn’t have them they would still fight. They might totally be occupied, then they would fight like partisans and do terrorist actions. That is the situation. That is the alternative. Not some happy little world you imagine.

                  America sure like Russia being trashed with their old discontinued weapons they would have to pay lots of money to dispose otherwise. America spends hundreds of billions of dollars every year just for Russia on their military budget. Basically their whole military budget was there because of Russia. Now they are being trashed for peanuts. That’s the biggest strategic win America had in decades. But thinking that this is all the is is also naive. Because America is not one child person that feels one emotion. Diplomats are thinking about what happens after the war and it’s a very difficult situation to defeat Russia in a way that doesn’t create more problems later. And Russia is losing, there is no doubt about it. That’s not from some main stream media that you hate so much, you would rather listen to Moscow media. That’s coming from war analysts, economists. That’s coming from the change in tone of Russian propagandists. That’s coming from Putin asking north freaking Korea for help

                  The world is chaos and most of the time things happen for the most banal reasons. Like a lunatic that finds a reason to invade another country in a minority that lives there, like the sudeten Germans.

                  Sometimes when you want to see if you are on the right sight of history, check who your comrades are. Yours are the extreme right, trump, Orban, kim jon um,… I wouldnt want to be in that company.

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              Oh, maybe read the comments again. It’s the classics :

              • Ukraine should follow Minsk agreements and all would be well (who cares that Russia didn’t and has broken a dozen other agreements)
              • it’s all because NATO is growing (lol)
              • Ukraine was shelling donbas, 14000 dead (yes, it was shelling Russian army in donbas,)
              • what about America (lame whataboutism)
              • Russia is there to protect a minority (sure, only that ask their leaders have said otherwise many times and have tried to annex land without a Russian minority)
              • Ukraine are nazis together with all the west (that’s just extreme right wing projection)
              • Russia is fighting the whole west (lol, the west didn’t even join in the last year defence budgets in EU and usa barely moved) …

              You have nothing. You just repeat these dumb bizzare debunked claims that are illogical not only false. And it’s become very boring.

              And you are trolling me again, aren’t you? Because you can’t be that dumb, can you?

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              Because you have no idea what war is and how it feels when foreign people come to your country and kill your friends and family. That tends to change peoples minds what is worth fighting for.

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              I would simply not die for a country thst didn’t appreciate me

              Fucking hell. Tell me you have never had real hardships or had to make an impossible but necessary decision in your life.

              “Uh, I’m super smart so I would just say no to fighting back if I was being murdered cause I would just stop being murdered. I’m so smart”

              You are a child with simple views in a complicated world and that’s the kind of argument you expect from a 12 year old. Which is hexbear in a nutshell.

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          Have you done so many brain gymnastics that you think you genuinely care about the lives of Ukrainians, or are you aware that you’re lying for political points?

          In what way do you actually value Ukrainian lives?

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        I lost any support for them when I saw them cheering the idea that North Korea should be able to nuke other countries as they all cheered happily “Death to America” with heart emojis like there would be no mass suffering and a complete lack of critical thought of what enabling bullies means for the suffering they are wanting to happen.

        They are scared idiots who think appeasing bullies means they will have an easier life and not have to think about how bad things sometimes just have to happen because not everyone is good at heart.
        Then they cover it with false claim that they support all people and they only support communism because of how it would support everyone equally.

        If you actually care about people you don’t root for suffering and hurting and you definitely don’t wave flags for the bullies just cause it’s an easier answer. Life isn’t so easy and they don’t want to hear it.

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      Just try to engage in a good-faith conversation with them. They love to shut that shit down with their weird image spams. And the poop. Like literal images of poop, to scare people off, or something. I really don’t get it.

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        The poop thing has sort of turned into a weird inside joke or virtue signal or something. Sort of like how in the dark ages of the pre-internet Era, nerds would quote LotR and Hitchhiker’s Guide at each other to signal that they are nerds and are therefore of one heart and mind

        I think what you are supposed to do is take their shit posts in stride and then shit post back at them. Which I’m not fucking doing.

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          Sort of like how in the dark ages of the pre-internet Era, nerds would quote LotR and Hitchhiker’s Guide at each other to signal that they are nerds and are therefore of one heart and mind

          You really weren’t there or had a very different experience than me. I mean, I guess by “very different,” I mostly mean we actually quoted Monty Python and Star Wars.

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            I wasn’t there, I just listen when people talk. But the point is the virtue signaling. Most social groups have a shibboleth to signal that they are part of the in-group. It’s sort of the inverse of how cult-like spaces will shun a specific thing that The Evil Outsiders have a casual relationship with, like strict veganism or strictly not using anything which functions similar to profanity

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              For sure. I agree with you completely and see the connection to hexbear. I was mostly just making a joke that my particular circle had different but still very specific inside jokes.

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      It was the calls to murder anyone who supports a democratic candidate, with the justification that cops have killed homeless people that turned me off.

      that and the stupid image emojis

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      The issue with Hexbear is that their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner. About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities. Their political views are less of an issue; it’s more about their toxic behaviour.

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        I mean, that’s most people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right, but nobody bats an eye at that because they’re upholding the status quo. 🤷

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          Do you see instances who’s main purpose is to represent “people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right” that are even nearly as popular as Hexbear?

          If you’re browsing all you frequently see posts from Hexbear users. I’m yet to come across a noticable amount of posts from users from an instance which represent the group you mentioned.

          (I couldn’t even name a single instance that fits that description, because if they exist, they’re not nearly as active as Hexbear.)

          Toxic people exist on all public instances. But on some they’re more common than on others.

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            Yeah, it’s called most of the internet. 🤷

            What you’re saying then is it’s OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they’re bad.

            Cause all the posts I’ve seen from it is mundane, and the only times I’ve ever seen it’s users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than “tankie bad durr” whatever a tankie is, I’m assuming a slur for leftists.)

            Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that’s what it looks like to me, I’ve been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.

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            Yeah, it’s called most of the internet. 🤷

            What you’re saying then is it’s OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they’re bad.

            Cause all the posts I’ve seen from it is mundane, and the only times I’ve ever seen it’s users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than “tankie bad durr” whatever a tankie is, I’m assuming a slur for leftists.)

            Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that’s what it looks like to me, I’ve been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.

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        And who exactly do we talk in a demeaning and insulting manner to? What is that the people we respond to that way say?

        No one who posts this kind of civilty or optics concerns about our behaviour ever mentions that.

        If you’re more offended by our responses than the things we push back against you deserve to be offended

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          Thanks for proving their point.

          Nobody deserves to be offended, and the things you push back against isn’t as much of a problem as the way you go about it.

          Civility isn’t in Hexbears vocabulary.

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            I agree! If only slaves thought to ask nicely for their freedom, they would have just been granted it! Civility is indeed the way!

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        their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner.

        About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities

        it’s more about their toxic behaviour

        This can be interpreted as bad faith if you don’t mention towards whom this behavior is directed at.

        Their political views are less of an issue

        Thank you for admitting it’s about the optics (which is not a concern for us)

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          This can be interpreted as bad faith if you don’t mention towards whom this behavior is directed at.

          It’s easy, you guys direct it at anyone that doesn’t instantly adopt your worldview.

          I literally had your people calling me a bigot for saying that being transgender is, ideally, a temporary state.

          The implication being they finish transitioning and end up whatever.

          I was literally called a bigot for accepting trans people in my own way. Some of ya’ll are fucking rabid, and you absolutely will turn people against you. People that would normally not really care whether or not someone is trans.

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            Some of yall are fucking rabid

            So are 90% of capitalists but y’all don’t bat an eye at that 🤷

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                  Also, yes I call out billionaire worshipping shitlords. I’m just sound enough of mind to understand that communism is far too idealistic to ever actually be accomplished.

                  There isn’t a single revolution that hasn’t ended with a new upper class taking over from the old one, therefore perpetuating the cycle of inequality. Hexbearians happily ignore this about revolution, effectively behaving as if the human element of greed will just magically evaporate with a new world order. Any system of governance that doesn’t take into account human weakness is a worthless system of governance.

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        We get that they’re toxic, but most people are. Their genocide denial is far more problematic imo.

        Though I have seen them myself and their trolling, vote brigading and harassment is really awful.

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        I do hate these, are they supposed to take up a whole screens worth of blank space each or is that my Connect app being weird about it.

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          It’s unintended and it’s why I’ve been hesitant to post emojis on other instances. It’s why I used spoiler tags.

          They’re not supposed to be so big. They look more normal sized on Hexbear. I’m told some Lemmy devs are working on a fix for it soon.

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            Fair enough then, alas it doesn’t seem Connect app reads markdown.

            out of curiosity does this do the quote thing to you? Cause it won’t for me, wasn’t sure if lemmy, my instance, or Connect. I just know MD is supposed to work.

            EDIT: oh sure it works when I talk shit about it. Still though, your spoiler didn’t so maybe only some comes through. Idk.

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    I’m surprised no one shared all the emoji publicly