I’ve been watching The Duran recently, and they’ve gone full Armageddon. Are they exaggerating or is Europe really going to become part of the Third World?
This is apocalyptic because it’s going to lead to mass unemployment, and destroy the industrial capacity in Europe. European companies that do manufacturing are already moving their production to Asia right now, and it’s never coming back.
Fertilizer is the most concerning part of all though because without fertilizer Europe will not be able to have decent harvests next year. So, it might be possible that Europe will have enough supplies to last the winter, but once that’s gone then there is no way to replace food or energy at that point.
Wow we’re really fucked. To think people here are laughing at the Russian economy… Euros have no clue what’s gonna hit them. Not gonna lie, the sadistic side in me is looking forward to see the European ego getting decimated.
When this war started I was expecting people to not care that much. I even expected some to point out the hypocrisy of the West considering we destroyed Iraq, Libya, Syria and Afghanistan in the last 2 decades. But this war fervor I saw everyone embarking on, made me disgusted at Europeans. Maybe there really is no hope, and this is a necessary step in our redemption.
Yeah, watching the frenzy over this in the west has been pretty wild given things NATO has done over the years. In fact, the whole thing is directly modelled on what NATO did in Yugoslavia. NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions, then had them invite NATO for support, and hold referendums on independence. This is literally the model that Russia is using right now in Ukraine.
Europe clearly misunderstood the state of economic interdependence with Russia, and the economic war was started based on the idea that Russian economy would quickly collapse. The reality turned out to be that Russia is self sufficient in essentials such as food, energy, and industrial production while Europe is not.
Seems like most Europeans, including the leadership, have been drinking their own kool-aid when it comes to Russia. This seems to be the source of all the bravado. People simply don’t have a grasp on how the economies of their countries actually work.
At this point Europe will be learning its place in the world through a very hard objective lesson.
But this war fervor I saw everyone embarking on, made me disgusted at Europeans.
Here in the US, it reminds me of the 2003 Iraq war fervor. I was only 13 at the time. I remembered 9/11 and the subsequent start of the war in Afghanistan. But 2003 in Iraq was my first time really properly understanding what war meant and entailed. And as the war dragged on, as the WMDs kept not being found and as the insurgency grew, as I aged into adulthood and college and watched friends come back from the desert as hollow, broken shells of their former selves, I resolved never to take anything the state or mass media had to say about war at face value ever again.
Apparently not everyone understood the assignment though.
I’d argue it’s even worse now. These Ukronazis have loads of Nazi insignia on display and Westoids couldn’t care less. Like you point that out, and they either say the Russians are the fascists or that these Nazis deserve support for fighting the Russians. It’s sickening.
Eh, we’ve been promised that for ages. Still waiting.
European ego getting decimated.
Like that’s ever going to happen. If anything, it will only whip said ego into murderous frenzy - as evidenced by the rapid rise of open fascists in European governments.
I’ve been watching The Duran recently, and they’ve gone full Armageddon. Are they exaggerating or is Europe really going to become part of the Third World?
Europe’s biggest fear - living like those they look down at
I think they’re pretty spot on actually. Around 60% of energy that Europe was getting from Russia has no replacement. Industry is already shutting down all across Europe, around 70% of fertilizer production capacity has halted, and steel mills are shutting down.
This is apocalyptic because it’s going to lead to mass unemployment, and destroy the industrial capacity in Europe. European companies that do manufacturing are already moving their production to Asia right now, and it’s never coming back.
Fertilizer is the most concerning part of all though because without fertilizer Europe will not be able to have decent harvests next year. So, it might be possible that Europe will have enough supplies to last the winter, but once that’s gone then there is no way to replace food or energy at that point.
Wow we’re really fucked. To think people here are laughing at the Russian economy… Euros have no clue what’s gonna hit them. Not gonna lie, the sadistic side in me is looking forward to see the European ego getting decimated.
When this war started I was expecting people to not care that much. I even expected some to point out the hypocrisy of the West considering we destroyed Iraq, Libya, Syria and Afghanistan in the last 2 decades. But this war fervor I saw everyone embarking on, made me disgusted at Europeans. Maybe there really is no hope, and this is a necessary step in our redemption.
Yeah, watching the frenzy over this in the west has been pretty wild given things NATO has done over the years. In fact, the whole thing is directly modelled on what NATO did in Yugoslavia. NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions, then had them invite NATO for support, and hold referendums on independence. This is literally the model that Russia is using right now in Ukraine.
Europe clearly misunderstood the state of economic interdependence with Russia, and the economic war was started based on the idea that Russian economy would quickly collapse. The reality turned out to be that Russia is self sufficient in essentials such as food, energy, and industrial production while Europe is not.
Seems like most Europeans, including the leadership, have been drinking their own kool-aid when it comes to Russia. This seems to be the source of all the bravado. People simply don’t have a grasp on how the economies of their countries actually work.
At this point Europe will be learning its place in the world through a very hard objective lesson.
Here in the US, it reminds me of the 2003 Iraq war fervor. I was only 13 at the time. I remembered 9/11 and the subsequent start of the war in Afghanistan. But 2003 in Iraq was my first time really properly understanding what war meant and entailed. And as the war dragged on, as the WMDs kept not being found and as the insurgency grew, as I aged into adulthood and college and watched friends come back from the desert as hollow, broken shells of their former selves, I resolved never to take anything the state or mass media had to say about war at face value ever again.
Apparently not everyone understood the assignment though.
I’d argue it’s even worse now. These Ukronazis have loads of Nazi insignia on display and Westoids couldn’t care less. Like you point that out, and they either say the Russians are the fascists or that these Nazis deserve support for fighting the Russians. It’s sickening.
Eh, we’ve been promised that for ages. Still waiting.
Like that’s ever going to happen. If anything, it will only whip said ego into murderous frenzy - as evidenced by the rapid rise of open fascists in European governments.
Nah, the propaganda was in preparation for years.
I get that, catastrophism is a very popular narrative. I remain skeptical as well.