• BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf
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    10 months ago

    Yeah the 40+ hours of manual labor I do producing 3 $25,000 machines in a week while being paid $1000 is totally not work at all.

    Critiquing a system of exploitation is only possible if one is lazy and worthless, not something that typically and historically comes from those most oppressed under a given system.

    Refusal to blindly submit to coercive hierarchies is a sign of immaturity, while blind obedience to that system makes you a real man. Only people who blindly accept their and the exploitation of their friends and family are adults.

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      10 months ago

      So go start your own business producing these $25,000 machines if it is that easy. Go on then. Clearly you have everything figured out. Your are supposedly worth $75k a week but you’re only getting paid $1k a week. Start your own company and even if you have yourself 10x the salary, you’d still have one of the most profitable companies on the planet.

      If it’s that easy, then why aren’t you doing it?

      Is it maybe because there are dozens of other people involved in building these machines? It is because the labor to build something doesn’t cover the cost to design and engineer it. And test it. And logistics. And the costs for any regulator certification these machines must go through.

      Loving hearing people with all the answers only to find out they really have no answers.

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        10 months ago

        Maybe because have a gigantic money head start is basically a must and not something that the mere mortal can have because of the actual thing that they are criticizing it?

        You can be rich, put that money somewhere where someone “manages” it for you, fuck off to a desert island for 5 years and when you come back you are richer than before. And you didn’t do jack shit for that money. Do you think that is fair? And most importantly where do you think that money “is coming from”? The answer is that it is skimming from all the hardworking people that generate profit for the company while only getting paid a small fraction of that.

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            10 months ago

            You keep insinuating people are children but yet it doesn’t seem like you are that interested in actually telling them they’re wrong, and repeating how its not that easy. So care to enlighten these “kids” or are you just gonna keep acting like an ass?

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              10 months ago

              I’m in a community labeled anti work and every other post is about some new lazy ass who wants endless handouts, and I should waste my time explaining anything to the commies in here?!

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                Yes, that’s how you possibly change peoples minds. I don’t agree they need changed in this case, I see your thoughts and attitude needing adjustment. But that’s not for me to do. And while I’m here I just want to take the chance to say that yeah, anti work is a pretty bad name, it should be work reform instead.

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        I have built my own business, however it was impossible to run equitably under current structures of regulation, so I sold it.

        But no, there are not dozens of people involved in building the machines at our 10 person company. There are 2. There are 2 involved in designing them, and three involved in ongoing support for the units, a cost which is itself covered entirely through service contracts. The majority of our revenue is taken by the corporation that bought the company with the entire crew together, including management, receiving less than 50% of the money made post costs for our efforts. Our revenue supports the multi billion dollar stock buybacks the owning corporation does each year, and the $4 million dollar salary of their chief executive.

        You obviously don’t work in manufacturing, because regulatory certification costs are one time payments done at the inception of each model, not an ongoing cost for each unit.

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          Sure thing buddy, if any of this was true any bank on the planet would happily write you a loan to start a competing business. One where you could theoretically undercut this big bad evil corporation by many thousands.
          Instead you’re either too lazy or just plain full of shit and want to mouth off online. Or, again, this is far more complicated than what you see in your tiny corner of the bigger process.

          Your schtick might work for some of your fellow commies out there, but it ain’t working with me.

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            10 months ago

            You can believe what you want. I’d offer to show the articles of dissolution filed with the state when we dissolved our corporation after the sale , but I’m not really willing to dox myself just because you choose not to believe me. And no, it’s unlikely a bank would finance me a loan in an entirely different industry to my previous business just because. Hell, we didn’t take any loans to build the business in the first place, straight capital only, no outside investment. We had a specific amount of runway to get up and running, and we did so.

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        10 months ago

        Exactly. This is what I chose to do, I took a small loan of seven million dollars from my father and started my own business, and that’s what everybody should do in my opinion.

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          10 months ago

          Hey dum-dum, people get real bank loans to start their businesses literally every single day. If the commies in here spent 1/2 of the time and effort to write snarky comments as they did a business plan or on educating themselves and learning a skill, they wouldn’t be stuck living in their mommy’s basement making barely enough to survive.

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            10 months ago

            I was agreeing with you! If they weren’t such dum dums they could be a success story like me and then we could all sit around and do nothing instead of working. It’s not hard!