no need to write an essay or anything

some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don’t know what’s serious and what’s irony

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        I haven’t even seen the show, and I’ve maybe heard the audio one time, but I see your comments so often that “no more half measures Walter” in a deep gravelly voice is now a common thing in my internal monologue lmao

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      It’s like, if the goal is the collapse of America, he’s probably the best bet yeah? If shit collapses he’ll probably get executed anyway by his own base of psychopaths.

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        if the goal is the collapse of America, he’s probably the best bet yeah?

        This assumes that fascism isn’t effective as capitalism’s immune response, but I’d argue it is.

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          Yeah, but the competentish fascist we were afraid of turned out to be Robinette Brandon. Covid ended, wars accelerated, he’s doing that faux-populism thing, new levels of state persecution of minorities, elections looking less legitimate than ever, jingoistic nationalism.

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          Its not. It only heigthens the contradictions. Take it from someone who was born in a corporatist state. That type of regime is extreamly fragile.

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          I don’t know if I’m an accelerationist, but I just think the US needs to collapse before better things are truly capable of happening

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            The insistence that Republicans and Democrats are literally exactly the same is incredibly myopic, obviously disprovable, and therefore just ruins the ability for the left to recruit amongst the most marginalized people in society because they see you saying “the group that actively wants to genocide you is the same to me as the one that doesn’t”. You could very easily use the actually correct rhetorical and political argument that the Democrats are incapable and disinterested in protecting marginalized people, but obscuring the difference between that disinterest and the most reactionary segments of society serves the nihilistic needs of pseudo-reactionary accelerationists. Why should I be surprised given you are literally advocating for a fascist in this thread.

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              No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil. But destroying the DNC is a requisite for progress. I am not advocating anything. I am posting. This is all meaningless. Are you afraid I am going to start some red brown alliance here? All the tankies will rise us as a unit to swing electoral numbers? If we had the power to do anything that wouldn’t be it.

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                No, the DNC is worse. They more efficient at blocking leftward movement. The GOP is evil.

                And the GOP constantly aggressively moves everything to the right. Or does that not count? Does the dissolution of public schools, women’s rights, and queer rights not matter to you? DNC sits in the passenger seat, but the GOP is driving.

                And you are discussing politics on a political forum so fuck off with “oh you can’t hold me accountable for anything I say when I think the US should elect a fascist”. You expressed an opinion and your opinion is that of your average Republican.

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                  The gop is evil of course. However the DNC is a fundamental part of facilitating the GOPs evil. They make sure no effective forces can be marshaled to stop or undo the GOP. In your analogy the GOP is at the wheel and thr DNC is at the pedals. Because this is America they are driving to get a burger. If the gop is going to get into an collision than the DNC is obligated to press the breaks are they not? If the do not press they breaks when they could thrn they are enabling the behavior

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                    Yes; in what way does that make the GOPa preferable alternative? You are the one that said in this thread people should vote for Trump. I’m not advocating for the Dems; I’m asking you to defend your pro-Republican position.

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      I wouldn’t she’d a tear if Trump tripped and broke his neck, or if he finally got devoured by his son Bannon or someone Merced him, but if I am to answer who I think would lead to the best situation globally between Trump and Biden, I’d pick trump any day. The man is incredibly incompetent and isolationist. Couldn’t even coup Venezuela.

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        It’s so outrageously non-materialist to think the US’s grip in Latin America is weakening because of Trump, and not because of the line decline of empire, China as a countervailing force, and the resilience of the Latin American people putting to use the lessons learned from prior US meddling. Biden also hasn’t done much of anything in LA because the the US generally is no longer capable of it. The president isn’t planning this shit personally. They aren’t even deciding to do it or not. The only choices they get to make are erratic single strikes. Like Trump killing Soleimani and nearly starting war with Iran. No biggie, though, right? Orange man funny!

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          I don’t think that South America is seeing leftism bloom because of Trump, I think they’re seeing it because of the work of south Americans. I think the south Americans work was easier under Trump - As you yourself said “the decline of Empire”. He was much worse at administering the American empire, which accelerated it’s collapse.

          Trump killing Soleimani was wrong and I don’t think I’ve at any point said anything to the contrary? It was also something that wasn’t widely supported, which fucked up soft power further. The war didn’t escalate because of Iran, and Iran was able to keep tensions low because Trump was an incompetent buffoon incapable of whipping the rest of the west and the media in line.

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            “the decline of Empire”. He was much worse at administering the American empire, which accelerated it’s collapse.

            How on earth you think the president meaningfully administers the empire, I have no idea. The empire is collapsing because of long historical trends and the inefficiency of its structures. Not because of Trump.

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              Again I don’t think it declines because of a single person. I do however think that the executive person has a lot of influence on how the us manages. There is a reason so many staffers were freaking out because key positions were unmanned more than a year after Trumps inauguration. They were freaking out because he did not follow security briefings, because he mishandled diplomatic engagements and because his cabinet was constantly shuffling. Pretending like these thing were inconsequential seems “ubmaterialistic” to me.

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      I think a lot of the confusion comes from how people here derive amusement from his stupidity, whereas with Biden and Obama the contempt was more open (because they weren’t clownishly, openly stupid, just malicious or more run of the mill incompetent)

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      To anyone in future linking this comment or thread as evidence that we are not trump-anguish supporters, also note that this here is the second highest up-beared comment on the site.