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      Remembering the good old days of eSheep.exe and my dad freaking out that “It’s a virus!” because he saw “a black sheep come running up to the other one and hit it! It started bleeding!”

      Dad, that’s a ram… The other sheep’s not bleeding. It’s blushing!

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      I remember I used to be subscribed to a mailing list for a programming language. A friend of the lead developer set the mailing list up for them at his university, and then went off and did his own thing. It was completely unmoderated. Some kid sent a “neat little proggy” his friend Dieter wrote. If the extent of my Internet usage wasn’t limited to free email through Juno, my entire hard drive probably would have gotten deleted that day lol

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      There used to be this thing going around on pre-smartphone phones (via Bluetooth, I assume) that showed a pocket watch closing and when it was fully closed, the phone shut down. We all thought it was hilarious to send it to as many people as possible and watch them panic. I don’t even know what format it was to look like a normal gif or video and do that. I certainly didn’t even care back then.

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        My guess is it was an actual gif that exploited some flaw in how the OS handled gifs and thus was able to execute code.

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          That would make sense. Thanks for coming up with an explanation. I did wonder when I thought about this earlier.

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      We were not prepared, as a species, for a device that let us come up with any opinion at all and find validation for it.

      It used to be that when you had an opinion that was wrong, you’d say it out loud a number of times, and you’d notice that everyone around you would call you an imbecile and ridicule you. It would make you reassess yourself and grow as a person.

      Now that societal failsafe is gone. Now people just aren’t challenged for holding the wrong opinion.

      That was an integral part of growing up and maturing. We don’t have a solution for it.

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        That’s why rather than trying to change people’s mind on the internet, I’ve resorted to just ridiculing them instead.

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            Why are you being downvoted? Why are you being made fun of? Ridiculing others isn’t particularly nice. If the person you’re arguing with is a troll, move on. If they aren’t a troll, then have a civil and respectful discussion with them. If you can’t come to a middle ground where you understand their point and they understand your point, move on.

            Ridiculing others is just mean. Who knows what they’re going through? It’s easy to forget people behind these texts are people too.

            I hate arguments in general because time and time again, people go into an argument trying to prove their point, the other person feels their point is being attacked since they’re being told a different point so then it turns into both sides attacking the other person’s point. Like, you think they’re gonna be inclined to understand your point if you say something like, “That is a stupid point you’re making because…” All that’s gonna do is make the other person feel attacked, so they attack your points (or you), which makes an argument just a war zone where both sides aren’t trying to under each other and instead try to find anything that helps their point, like warping their words a little, or pressuring them so that they say something stupid which they can use as ammunition. At that point, no one is trying to understand each other. They’re all too busy trying to prove their point while hurting the other person’s point. Try to understand the other person. Doesn’t mean you have to agree with them. Just understand.

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        It’s not that they aren’t challenged for any given opinion, If you go into the wrong place you still get lambasted but then you’ll just say "oh that’s because I put an insert group here idea in an insert opposing group forum and thats why I got downvoted. The problem is how easily you can put yourself in a bubble online, compared to real life where unless you work/shop/live in the same community of like-minded people you’ll be forced to eventually come to grips with the fact that you’re one of many POV’s.

        It’s hard to tell how popular or unpopular your opinion is in terms of the average person, now. Since it’s all just chatrooms online with vague numbers of subscribers, etc.

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        This exactly. I think theres a saying that goes “our technology far outstrips our actual intelligence”. Surprisingly smart phones & arguably the internet as well are both technologies that we are unable to manage responsibly as a species. Confirmation bias is one hell of a drug

        Back in the 90’s & early 00’s, if you were running around ranting about Jewish space lasers or kids being dissected in the basement of your local Pizza Hut, you’d be shunned, ridiculed and likely catch a visit from your local police department haha

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          Yeah. I firmly believe it will be a hurdle the human race cannot overcome. Technology advances faster than our own maturity. If you gave a room full of 4 year olds loaded guns, how long would they last in there?

          That is us with the internet.

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        Of course, sometimes those ideas being ridiculed were “I don’t think our king, who claims Primae Noctis and whips anyone who looks at him, was actually chosen by God to rule. Gramp said he remembers when the king murdered the old king and skull-fucked him. Maybe we’re just victims of an inherently violent system?”

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        I see the Internet getting blamed for this shit and i want to offer a counter-opinion: the tech is different but the problems we have now are the same as we’ve had before: deregulation and corruption.

        The Internet is incredible. Even good ol’ r was just as great a tool for learning about other perspectives as it could be an echo chamber. I learned so much about other people just by joining their /r/ and lurking, because I’m the type of person who’s interested in people. The Internet gave me the power to do what i do normally with people but on a larger scale. Perhaps the best critisism of the Internet is also it’s greatest strength, to give more people more range to do what they were doing anyway, for good or ill.

        I believe though that when we criticize the Internets current state we are looking at a symptom, not a cause. I believe what we’re looking at is actually the fallout from the media deregulation and consolidation following the telecommunications act of 1996.

        Ever since that time the people have increasingly been getting their “news” first in the form of propaganda opinion pieces, otherwise known as otherwise known as VNRs. These press releases, written by increasingly larger, increasingly right-wing corps are designed to sway public opinion rather than inform, and they are very successful at their craft.

        The underlying problem in my opinion is that people are exposed to these lies and vitriolic ideas first from these sources. Combine this with a dearth of credible news sources so even one with the critical thinking skills of sherlock would have a hard time finding objective truth?

        Well here we are, flailing about in the dark. Some people, when searching for answers, find themselves in echo chambers filled with other people who came to the same conclusion. I don’t blame them. When there is no objective truth, where do you find yours?

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        Now that societal failsafe is gone. Now people just aren’t challenged for holding the wrong opinion.

        I agree with everything you said except for this. Opinions are never wrong since they’re subjective, they’re just fucking stupid.

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      Ironically, that mindset predates the internet.

      “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

      • Isaac Asimov

      He died in 1992.

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    I remember downloading what I thought was a no-CD crack for some game from Kazaa.

    It was an app that locked my screen, opened a window, and systematically deleted every folder in my main C: drive before crashing. Then the screen went black and a message popped up that said “Thank god it’s only a game.”

    The exe was an ad for some indie Doomclone FPS game where the levels were your computer’s file structure and the walls of the rooms would be decorated with the images stored in your folders. I shut down my machine after that. I was shaking for the next hour.

    If anyone knows the game, I’d love to learn what it was all about.

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    Internet absolutely was better 15 years ago. Everything is paywalled now and there’s constant disinformation. Algorithms feed you bullshit and people all post outrage bait to get attention. Not saying that stuff didn’t exist 15 years ago, but it’s absolutely become the dominant experience online.

    Hardware has gotten better though!

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      When you see “Account created: 1997”.

      “These are the sacred scrolls of the ancient ones.”

      I have boots older than some people that are posting on Lemmy today…

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    When I first started my career I was in tier 3 tech support and to troll a colleague we put an mp3 in the startup folder on Windows. Every time he booted the computer to troubleshoot he lost his s*** trying to figure out why the music was playing. The dude ended up formatting C:

    Precious memories.

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      I went to an internet café once. I opened regedit and went to Win98 colour settings. I swapped top and left border colours with bottom and right ones to make all windows and buttons look debossed. I left. That PC was “out of order” for two weeks afterwards.

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        That’s genius. I was always more of a screenshot-your-desktop-then-set-it-as-wallpaper-and-hide-taskbar-and-icons kinda guy but that one is so damn subtle it probably just leads to people thinking everything works normally except that it feels ever so slightly off, but they can’t put their finger on it. I like it a lot.

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    I used to wonder why my mom mistrusted online banking so much but looking back at the free programs I downloaded plus limewire it makes sense

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    I like how you would download a totally random executable and run it. Not suspicious at all!

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      Only time I ever got a virus that crashed my PC was from an old-school forum that apparently was hacked to include a drive-by download of some type that infected my PC just from loading the webpage. The shit wouldn’t even boot and I didn’t try to recover it, because I had just imaged the hard drive a week before luckily.

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    Forums aren’t gone. They just were never really big to begin with. Reddit eclipsed all of them to the point that most forums were irrelevant unless they were highly specific (not like, a gaming or show community) or couldn’t be on reddit (straight piracy with linking, other stuff we won’t talk about)

    They’re not even gone, just the communities that want them are fewer and far between.

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        Without signatures or badges or big enough avatars or different sections for posting specific things or threads coming to top whenever someone posts in them or people who’ve know each other for years via username…

        But sure, we’re on a forum.

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          While I do like the relative anonimity we have around here compared to more traditional forums I surely wouldn’t complain if we had user flairs in specific communities like Reddit has.

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          threads coming to top whenever someone posts in them

          Sorting by new comments kind of emulates this.

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      One thing that happened since I joined the feddieverse is that I’ve spend more time on the underbelly of the internet. Like, the other day I found someones blog. Not their tumblr or anything, their own personal blog.

      It looked like shit and was filled with pointless entries but it was the internet in it’s rawest form

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      Yeah, specific forums for games or apps are still here, they’re just pretty empty unless there’s a big community for them. Some companies intentionally make forums their first and best place to get info, honestly.

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    When I was a teenager, a bunch of my friends online were tossing that around. I found a trojan and started sending it around as cupholder.exe but making it look like I wasn’t the one who sent it… and just immediately logged in and opened their CD tray. Then started fucking with their system in silly ways.

    Ahh the good old days when even malware wasn’t that bad. Or maybe I was just a really stupid kid. At least I password-locked the trojan and removed it when I left.

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    I view forums as the middle era of the internet.

    Th early era was chatrooms, the middle era was forums, and the late era, which we are in now, is all social media.

    I miss the middle era of the internet. Forums were a blast. You could really build a community with those things.

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          Depends on definitions.

          1978 for BBS vs either 1974 for the publication of TCP itself, or 1982/1983 for deployment of the same TCP/IP we use today, or 1976 for X.25, or 1977 for the first actual live interconnection of multiple packet switched networks.

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            Perhaps better phrased: BBS predate the web (http+html) and the modern internet. Gopher doesn’t count ;)

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      Agree to all. How would you define the format of what you’re reading right now, some derivitive of a forum?

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          I gotta say no. This is more like a collection of forums. There really is no following, no social aspect other than discussing the topic at hand. I am not promoting myself, I prefer annonymity over identifying myself. I do not think this counts as social media at all.

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            Disagree, politely… Not in the “OMG INTERNET DISAGREEMENT I HOPE YOUR MOTHER GETS FUCKED BY A HORSE!” way.

            Reddit/Lemmy/Etc are nothing more than slightly more elaborate twitter with better filtering/catagorization. Social media all the way down.

            But its its not a major issue, so its not like we need to invest time in a slapfight over whose wrong and whose right.

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              Nice to know it is a pleasant disagreement. But seriously, this is not social media.

              • Posting other peoples content instead of their own

              • Anonymity over identifiable.

              • Its not better filtering, it is distinct categories and communities, just like forums.

              • Persistent over breaking news.

              • There are no (or few) personal updates or status reports.

              • There is little to no social networking which is the hallmark of social media, like twitter, Linked In, Facebook, etc.

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                1. Yes, like people often do on social media.
                2. You didnt have to use your real name on social media until relatively recently, and depending on platform.
                3. Yes, Like I said, filters.
                4. Both are persistent, and both have breaking news
                5. People who want everyone to know their personal updates, post them everywhere.
                6. There is tons of social networking on sites like reddit, Lemmy probably less so. but only because its relatively recent in the zeitgeist.
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    I am still active in several forums. They are great and have even more of a sense of community them they used to. People talk about the subject and even meet in person around the world.

    I also host a forum for a different group. No ads either cause fuck that shit.