Today's conversation is about Met's latest classical Chinese exhibition: Learning to Paint in Premodern China where we have the honour to speak with the curator of such exhibition, Joe Scheier-Dawlberg, returning to ChinaTalk for the second time! Link to the exhibition: https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/learning-to-paint/exhibition-objects WE HAVE A CHINATALK NEWSLETTER WHICH YOU SHOULD ALL SIGN UP TO READ! We also have a new URL for you: https://www.chinatalk.media ChinaTalk on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/448WaJhgJGJKnQ3HCE2EBa ChinaTalk on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chinatalk/id1289062927 For partnerships or business enquiries: https://chinatalk.squarespace.com/ Jordan Schneider's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanschnyc Timestamps: 00:00-05:31 Introduction to the exhibition Learning to Paint in Premodern China 05:32-17:40 Grooms and horses - Paintings by a grandfather, father and grandson 17:41-21:44 Orchid and rock; Bamboo - Paintings by a husband and wife 21:45-31:31 Landscapes after old masters - Paintings by a master and a student 31:32-40:13 Painting Manuals and Innovators in ancient Chinese Art 40:13-48:03 Streams and Mountains without End 48:04-57:00 AI and Art