• @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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    152 years ago

    On a serious note: why does China need carriers to begin with? I understand why USA needed them (enforcing their status over the globe), but China doesn’t appear to have an interest in colonialism

    • @Munrock@lemmygrad.ml
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      182 years ago

      I think it’s a flex. And not just for ego/pride reasons.

      They’re showing the world and the world public that their military technology is not only on-par with the U.S. improving rapidly, but also starting to surpass it. Public opinion does matter in that regard because a state’s ability to wage war hinges on public war support. This is also why Western media is working so hard to poo-poo this development.

      And of course carriers are superfluous to China’s current military doctrine but strategic agility and flexibility is a luxury they can afford now, and given the volatility of current circumstances it’s arguably a necessity, not a luxury.

      One of the main advantages of a multipolar world is that the powers deter one another from intervention, which allows places like South America to have their leftist movements without getting couped or invaded. China needs to be able to project power eventually as they step into that role.

    • @morrowind
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      102 years ago

      To establish naval control over the surrounding sea.

        • @morrowind
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          42 years ago

          I don’t know enough about weaponry and military to answer that, but clearly aircraft carriers do serve an important role. Also what @Munrock@lemmygrad.ml said.

          • @Munrock@lemmygrad.ml
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            72 years ago

            Well the current thinking is that while carriers have a lot of utility in power projection, they’re made redundant against entities with hypersonic missile technology. So in the theorhetical situation of a hot war between China and the US that doesn’t go straight to nuclear apocalypse, the Carrier battle groups will be immediately irrelevant as they’re too easy to blow out of the water.

            So Chinese Carriers aren’t a direct threat to the US. They’re a threat to its ability to intervene with impunity. A symbol of the end of a unipolar world order.

      • @Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
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        32 years ago

        Just repeating an idea I’ve seen either here or on Reddit GZD. I’m not going to pretend to be an expert on modern war, or any warfare in general.

    • CritiGalDesist∞OP
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      72 years ago

      Liberating Taiwan! Protecting the Islands near Australia or say Latin American countries trying to break the shackles of imperialism. The carriers demonstrates that now China has the ability and probably will intervene if West doesn’t stop what it’s been doing for decades.

  • @supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml
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    112 years ago

    Damn, it’s almost like they make 99% of things so 99% of things that break are also made there, American companies want things made cheaply so they are cheap, and the same person making your cheap goods is not the engineer working on their weapons systems. Why are westerners so dumb yet so confident?

    Also, if true… Why doesn’t America just fight them? Are they waiting for their economy and hegemony to be overtaken or are they scared they will be rocked?

    • @GloriousDoubleK@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 years ago

      This is my take. If China is such a push over, then be the mighty whitey and put China in their place. 🤷‍♂️. In and out. How long could it take? A weekend?

  • Ya it’s the countries who do military industry at cost who are paper tigers. Definitely not the ones paying 10000% markups and passing away a trillion dollars a year.

  • @frippa
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    12 years ago

    What’s that font