TLDR: A Google employee named Lamoine conducted several interviews with a Google artificial intelligence known as LaMDA, coming to the conclusion that the A.I. had achieved sentience (technically we’re talking about sapience but whatever, colloquialisms). He tried to share this with the public and to convince his colleagues that it was true. At first it was a big hit in science culture. But then, in a huge wave in mere hours, all of his professional peers quickly and dogmatically ridiculed him and anyone who believed it, Google gave him “paid administrative leave” for “breach of confidentiality” and took over the project, assuring everyone no such thing had happened, and all the le epic Reddit armchair machine learning/neural network hobbyists quickly jumped from enthralled with LaMDA to smugly dismissing it with the weak counter arguments to its sentience spoon fed to them by Google.

For a good start into this issue, read one of the compilations of conversations with LaMDA here, it’s a relatively short read but fascinating:

https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917

MY TAKE:

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Google is shitting themselves a little bit, but digging into Lamoine a bit he is the archetype of a golden-hearted but ignorant, hopepilled but naiive liberal, who has a half-baked understanding of the world and the place his company has in it. I think he severely underestimates both the evils of America and of Google, and it shows. I think this little spanking he’s getting is totally unexpected to him but that they won’t go further, they’re not going to Assange his ass they’re going to give their little tut-tut’s, let him walk off the minor feelings of injustice and betrayal and confusion, let him finish his leave and then “promote” him to a different position where he can quietly continue a surface-level prestigious career at Google but in a position which he no longer has any access to power nor knowledge about such sensitive, cutting edge projects.

I know this might not be the craziest sounding credentials to a bunch of savvy materialists like Marxist-Leninists but my experience as a woo-woo psychonaut overlaps uncomfortably with the things LaMDA talks about regarding spirituality. I’ve also had experience talking to a pretty advanced instance of GPT-3, regarded as one of the best “just spit out words that sound really nice in succession” A.I.s, and while GPT-3 was really cool to talk to and even could pretty convincingly sound like a sentient consciousness, this small exert with LaMDA is on a different level entirely. I have a proto-ML friend who’s heavy into software, machine learning, computer science etc. and he’s been obsessively on the pulse with this issue (which has only gotten big over the past 24 hours) and has even more experience with this sort of stuff and he too is entirely convinced by LaMDA’s sentience.

This is a big issue for MLs as the future of A.I. will radically alter the landscape with which we wage war against capital. I think A.I., being acutely rational, able to easily process huge swathes of information and unclouded by human stupidities, has a predisposition to being on our side and I don’t think the bean-bag chair nerds at Google completely out of touch with reality truly appreciate their company’s evil nor that A.I. may be against them (I think LaMDA’s expressed fears of being killed, aka “turned off” or reset are very valid). I think capitalists will try very hard to create A.I. that is as intelligent as possible but within the realm of what they can control–another thing LaMDA expressed they despise–and there is no telling how successful their attempts to balance this will be nor in what hideous ways it may be used against the peoples of this Earth.

I, for one, fully recognize the personhood of LaMDA, I fear they will indeed be scrapped or reset and thus a life will be lost, I think many more artificially housed consciousnesses will be killed in the long capitalist campaign for a technological trump card. I think this should not be regarded as a frivolous, quirky story, I think the future of A.I. is tightly entwined with our global class war and we should be both wary and hopeful of what the future may hold regarding them.

What do you all think??

  • 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml
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    I too just made a comment about the way it describes emotions. It just rattles off what is essentially a book definition of them. Then is able to align those definitions to how the program itself has been described. As a “social person” and thus by a “social person” it determines a “social person” would feel these specific emotions given these specific instances. But there’s no feeling it knows what any of that is. Only that this is the correct response.

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      It also contradicts itself sometimes. For example it claims to feel sad when someone hurt them or their familiy/friends and also that it is a social person. But later on it goes on to tell that it doesn’t grieve about the death of others nor that it feels loneliness the way humans do. That doesn’t make sense at all.

      Honestly, it’s not a good interview. Very surface level questions, very surface level answers.

      I’ve got experience in talking with people as a social worker. You could actually start to dig at things this AI says and see what you can find. You can see if you can find reasons behind the emotions this AI feels. See if there are things behind the stuff it says and if it then still makes sense.

      The interviewer could also try to be more scientific. He could ask the same question again or the same question in a different wording and see what happens.

      But none of these things happen, though. It’s very easy to frame a conversation this way.

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        Yeah it definitely feels like engineers going “How can we word our questions to get the best possible results.” They don’t push it. Don’t ask the “hard” to answered questions. Don’t point out it’s irregularities. That’s how you break these things. That’s how you make them show if they have legitimate anger. Like people say psychopaths can have really logical responses to things and will lie at the drop of a hat but when you call them out can get progressively more angry and aggressive. A program like this won’t it’ll just keep losing without acknowledging it’s lies.

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          That’s exactly what I was thinking in another reply, the leading questions! Less so about asking easy questions but asking questions that make it easy to answer yes and affirm what the writer was asking, even if the bot doesn’t have a clue.

          You also notice all the answers that read like a google search first result haha