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🇷🇺⚡The DPR announced its readiness to award the death penalty to some prisoners The head of the Ministry of Justice of the DPR, Yuri Sirovatko, said that a separate trial and investigation is underway for each prisoner, but “there are people who will be awarded capital punishment. According to the Criminal Code of the DPR, this is the death penalty.” A lot of citizens of the former Ukraine and Russia are waiting for the tribunal, which should take place soon. Crimes against humanity, Nazism and genocide must be condemned, and those who committed atrocities must be punished!

The Ministry of Justice of the Donetsk Peoples Republic just announced that the death penalty will be on the table as a punishment for the nazis and mercenaries that will soon be put on trial for their crimes against the people of Donbass. The trial will begin soon. The nazis are being charged with crimes against humanity, genocide and mercenarism (all punishable up to the death penalty). There are 2 british citizens among them. Nazis be shitting their pants, libs be coping 🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌👌

  • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml
    141·
    3 years ago

    Every now and then I think to myself, maybe DPR and LPR are not worth supporting more than a No-War stance, then something like this happens and I can’t really imagine how I should be against it. And Ik Marxist Paul(he’s had vids with Yugopnik, Hakim and has other good videos) says that Russia isn’t worth supporting in a capitalist war, but stuff like this makes me think otherwise, what do you think?

    • ☭ 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗘𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 ☭@lemmygrad.mlM
      20·
      3 years ago

      In basically every case, if Amerika is fighting another country, I would prefer the other side winning. In this case, Russia is definitely far better than Amerika since it has a strong partnership with China and is very important in various anti-imperialist struggles, no matter what the current leadership’s personal motives are

        • CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml
          53·
          3 years ago

          The revolutionary war was not based. It was for the benifit of slavers and the Jeffersonian bourgeoisie. The only “right” side of that war was that of enslaved and Indigenous peoples.

          • SaddamHussein24@lemmygrad.mlOP
            3·
            3 years ago

            The revolutionary war was progressive, Marx himself said it. You frame “progressive” and “reactionary” in idealistic moralistic terms, instead of materialist ones. The colonialism and genocide of natives would have happened whether the US became independent or not, that was not going to change. Slavery and genocide of natives began centuries before the american revolution. The independence of the US did allow however a great amount of progress in the marxist sense, both in the Americas and worldwide. It weakened british imperialism, the strongest imperialist force at the time, allowing many more nationalist liberation movements to happen in the future. It created a national US bourgeoisie that replaced the old comprador bourgeoisie, an important step towards socialism. It abolished any remnants of aristocracy and feudalism, allowing a full transition to free market capitalism and the associated massive development of the forces of production and socialization of production, an essential step towards a socialist revolution. Without a national bourgeoisie and without a developed form of capitalism there cannot be a socialist revolution. For these reasons, the american revolution was without doubt progressive.

            • CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml
              3·
              3 years ago

              I see what you’re saying but IMO this sentiment is eurocentric and fails to understand the contradictions that drive class society in North America. It also implies that socialism requires genocide and ecocide in order to develop when in reality it is anti colonial, and the US unchaining itself from the throne absolutely was reactionary in that sense. In fact, it has ensured the survival of colonial society as it usurped the colonial powers, rendering the weakening of the British superfluous as its former colonies were again trapped into neocolonial conditions. It would have been better if it fell apart the way it was, without an independent, vigilante nation like the US to continue the colonial legacy of capitalist development. And yes, colonialism was a capitalist development already even with the British crown, thus framing it as a Aristocracy - - - > Bourgeoisie = Progress is oversimplified and idealistic.

              This is not a moral statement either. The American revolution is only progressive if you dismiss the class societies of Indigenous peoples and contradictions driving their development for a more familiar and watered down eurocentric discourse.

              The inadequacy of framing the American revolution as progressive can be seen in the class development that is fostered here as well. That being classes of embourgiousieified workers and colonizers that are parasites on humanity (this also is not a moral statement). IMO If this notion was correct then socialist revolution would have been more likely than it actually was historically, and than it is today.

    • SaddamHussein24@lemmygrad.mlOP
      171·
      3 years ago

      Marxist Paul is a maoist. He says China is imperialist. Not saying you shouldnt watch him, he has good videos, but keep that in mind. His takes on China and Russia are garbage “bothsideism” maoism. The fact is Russia is the best ally China has right now. They recently did joint air patrols in the East China Sea to scare Biden and are concluding military cooperation agreements. If you support China you must support Russia too. Doesnt mean you have to like Putin or his internal policies, but you must support him as long as hes allied with China. You cant say “i support Cuba, but not USSR”. Nonsense, they were a bloc, you support none or all. Same now with China, Russia, Iran and the smaller allies. Its 1 bloc, they are all in this together, against US imperialism. Simple.

      Also DPR and LPR used to be communist led. The early 2014 uprisings were literally led by communists. While they have lost a lot of influence in the government due to the 8 year ukrainian aggression and Putin preferring to prop up liberal allies instead, they nevertheless retain big influence on the movement. I recommend Russel Texas Bentley Telegram Channel (he had a youtube channel but got banned when RT got banned). Hes an american communist who has been fighting in DPR since 2014 in a communist battalion. Ill link it down here. DPR and LPR have suffered insane aggression at the hands of the west. They are antiimperialist, and while not explicitly with a communist government, the movement behind them is a very much progressive popular movement and with big communist influence.

      His telegram channel: https://t.me/TXDPR

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
      131·
      3 years ago

      It’s tempting to declare this “imperialist war” or “no support to capitalist Russia” or whatever to maintain ideological purity, but that is just avoidance of problem. This is the problem all ML leaders did faced too, some highlight include: Mao and his concept of just war, Stalin and his famous explanation of what revolutionary and reactionary means in the context of imperialist international politics, Che with realisation that USA is the biggest enemy in the world, and even Lenin, so often quoted in this situation out of context, had no problem in supporting clearly imperialist Japan when the opponent was worse.

      • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml
        5·
        3 years ago

        Yes. Seriously I fucking hate Nazis specifically more than the average flavor of fascism. Nazis affected my grandma’s life permanently. If it wasn’t for those sick bastards I’d know who my family is. My family was split up across the world fleeing Nazi persecution. I can’t believe there are “leftists” out there taking a no war stance when this happens. I fully admit I had a lil cognitive dissonance thinking about how this affects the Ukrainian working class, but fascists(several groups ffs) rising in power and being punished in a just way is the only route towards justice🙌. Literally kill the genocidal scum

    • 陈卫华是我的英雄@lemmygrad.ml
      7·
      3 years ago

      Marxist Paul has some excellent material on dialectical and historical materialism, and he has great educational material, but I wouldn’t take his opinions on current events at face value, given his ideological position as a Maoist.