• Yozul@beehaw.org
      1·
      46 minutes ago

      XFCE is still using GTK 3, why would they care what Gnome does with GTK 5? Nobody but Gnome is even using GTK 4.

  • trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    69·
    11 hours ago

    I just hope Wayland has its accessibility shit together before then. There are people that still need to use X11 for their accessibility needs.

    • priapus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      5 hours ago

      GTK 4 released 9 years after GTK 3, so it’ll be quite some time before GTK 5. If Wayland doesn’t have better accessibility than X11 at that point it’d be time to give up on it as a project, and maybe desktop Linux as a whole.

      • CarrotsHaveEars
        4·
        4 hours ago

        GTK+4 was released? When??

        I’ve been compiling GTK+3 3.2x, the latest stable version about ten years ago and always wonder will they ever advance the major version. Years of installing XFCE4 and stuff and I always saw them pulling GTK+3 as a dependency. Never seen GTK+ marked 4 though.

        To be fair I haven’t visited their official website for a while though.

    • refalo@programming.dev
      30·
      9 hours ago

      last time I checked, blind users could not even install any mainstream distro anymore, because they all switched to wayland, and that broke screen readers in the installer.

      • trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        14·
        7 hours ago

        Yeah. I’m sad to say that, about a year ago, I switched back to macOS because it handles accessibility waaaaay better. And I don’t even use screen readers. It sounds like their situation is even worse :/

        I just need the ability to easily zoom in and out using Super+scroll up/down (without causing performance issues or visual jank) and trackpad gestures that aren’t extremely limited. Granted, both of these things may be more of a DE thing, but wherever the issue lies, I would like them fixed.

        • OrekiWoof
          29·
          5 hours ago

          linux developers only care about shit they themselves care about, powertripping and some stupid principles they made up, not about making a usable environment for everyone

    • TWB0109@lemmy.one
      26·
      10 hours ago

      Fr, accessibility is def important and they’re not giving it enough attention

    • kalpol@lemmy.world
      51·
      7 hours ago

      Also I’ve found some games that work fine in Wine under X11 and not in Wayland

  • GayhitlerEnglish
    181·
    11 hours ago

    I s2g im gonna become one of those psychos who runs the oldest Debian that still gets security updates behind a pfsense with whitelisting.

      • data1701d (He/Him)@startrek.websiteEnglish
        2·
        1 hour ago

        Stares in Debian Testing. (Though I use Bookworm on my laptop, probably soon to be Trixie. Nice thing about Trixie is I’ll no longer have to use the Backports kernel on my Thinkpad and can just stay on the LTS one.)

      • GayhitlerEnglish
        9·
        6 hours ago

        Please forgive me, as a Debian user I’m prone to senior moments and will soon have my driving license legally revoked.