yeah sure not having a wire is nice, but two generations of earbuds from my phones own manufacturer and both pairs i get regularly dogshit audio quality, and half the time one of the buds doesn’t even work or produces barely any audio. There is no way to remedy this even after resetting the buds and the bluetooth connection. and you have to shell out 3x as much money for these things. also it’s yet another device whose charge you have to keep track of

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    i used bluetooth for my car once and it totally fucked everything up. now when i use an aux cord it tries using both (even though i turn off the bluetooth) and produces crackling. fuck bluetooth

  • I’ve found this is one of the areas in the market where brands actually make a big difference, and some quality legacy brands clearly don’t give a shit. Active noise cancelling is a godsend for someone like myself with ADHD or autism in loud spaces. Then there’s some brands that have LDAC high quality audio over Bluetooth. I found that Anker Soundcore is pretty great in these respects, and they have some pretty inexpensive models. However, the controls on my now two year old models are hit and miss. I disabled the wear detection on the headphones, and the touch controls on the earbuds. The headphones don’t respond to volume controls on the phone, and they don’t work when connected to my computer so only the computer controls the volume 🤷‍♀️.

    The earbuds were a design that is shit for staying in your ears while active, so I’d recommend carefully reading reviews and get a set that have the little stem that hangs down from your ear maybe?

    Other than that, they sound really good, have tuneable eq, strong noise cancelling, and a lot of models of their headphones allow you to use an aux cord.

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      Which brand? I tried a few cheaper BT headphones and they were terrible. Anker is the cheapest I have tried that has good quality

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    Well i guess it has pros and cons. A pro would be for example that you can connect it to the bluetooth speakers in your car, or any other device where cable wouldn’t do. A con is that cable is simply more sturdy and less fickle.

    The same goes for internet connectivity. All bigger servers are connected over cable, because it simply is more reliable and has higher throughput than wireless. But also, with wireless, you can move around the house without worrying about stumbling on cables and accidentally plugging them out.

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      “bluetooth-only” not the mere concept of bluetooth. phones before 2016 could still do all the things you mention.

      also wifi is a pretty bad analogy tbh. not only is it not nearly as shitty and unreliable as bluetooth, but the typical use case is way different. listening to music from a device in your pocket or hand to speakers in your ears is pretty different from running ethernet around your house (and if even a small amount of effort is put in you could run ethernet around your house in such a way that it isn’t in the way, even if ugly. if anything the cost is more prohibitive than dealing with a bunch of cables)

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    When they removed the headphone jack from almost all smartphones was genuinely when I stopped buying smartphones. fucking bastards lol

    little individual buds with nothing to stop you from losing them down a storm drain or in the grass or whatever and no room for antennas or anything are just like, not that great of an idea to begin with, but fine, some people like them. Except bluetooth is such a dogshit protocol that designing a custom set of chips for both phone and earbuds that extend the protocol and are supposed to make everything run smoothly was the only way to get such a product off the ground and not be a flop. But it only takes one to be a trendsetter and then it kinda doesn’t matter if the other copycat products are any good, everyone just wants the cool buds. If they don’t work reliably you better just buy the latest flagship, your 2 year old flagship obviously is just dogshit and you can’t expect phone manufacturers to actually test their products for compatibility. Oh and they might not work worth a shit with that flagship either, especially with the 2.4ghz band being so utterly destroyed by noise

    And of course the batteries are typically completely unserviceable so the lifespan is like 2 years tops, maybe a bit more if you baby them and dont mind the degrading battery performance. All to “improve” away one of those technologies that basically worked great and didnt need it. I have headphones from 1975, another from the late 80s, another from the late soviet union/early independent ukraine, and some more modern examples, and they all work with any device with a headphone jack and reliably sound anywhere from fine to excellent. All but a few of the cheapest modern examples are basically infinitely repairable too, if the jack goes bad it takes 15 mins and little skill to resolder them. Occasionally the cord is annoying, but thats the price you pay for shit actually working reliably and not being a brief transition state of e-waste.

    And don’t get me started on Chi-Fi, the shit you can get for barely $20 now basically blows the pants off of any bluetooth ever made. And the mic quality of a wired mic that sits right next to your mouth is 5x better too

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      Chi-Fi

      I really really like these cheap buds I got from Faaeal, they sit in your ear but not inserted in your ear canal, so you still have situational awareness and can hear what’s going on around you.

      Most of the chifi buds I’ve seen are like Moondrops where they go in your ear canal, do you know of any that are like my Faaeal Iris buds?

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    I found ear buds just do not like the distance from my ears to the pocket my phone lives in (upper thigh, front pocket).

    Headphones were a lot better, but broke in that one spot they always do (earpiece swivel bracket). >.>

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      idk a wireless pair offhand but my sony wired headphones (mdr-v6/mdr-7506) have a metal bracket at that exact spot, and are such common, long-running products that you can actually buy spare parts when they break. Something to think about! I’ve had the same problem with earbuds, the 3 ft from pocket to ear is too much somehow

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    Bluetooth is shit for music and should be replaced with something that can do lossless audio

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    I’ve hated this from the beginning and people act like I’m crazy for it. So happy to be among my people here

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    I have a pair where the battery is shot and can’t be replaced, not sure why I didn’t see that coming or why I maybe did and didn’t care at the time.

    My next phone is going to have a headphone jack again for podcast listening, I do most music listening on an old ipod anyways.

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    Good, cheap wireless noise-cancelling headphones are one of the few legitimately wonderful technological advancements of the last 10 years. Very few things help my with my ADHD as much as these fuckers.

    Annoying coworker breathing like a 400 m runner? Headphones. Loud, stressful supermarket? Headphones. The little kid downstairs throws it’s third tantrum of the day? You know it.

    Cables can suck it. I will wrestle Bluetooth anyday before getting my head yanked back because I forgot my headset has a cable and i suddenly got up to get some water.

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      (some) full size headphones get a pass IMO because they actually have enough space for an antenna that has a range greater than 6-12 inches, often have a backup wired input, and are generally held together with screws so you can actually replace the battery when it starts to go in like 2 years. individual wireless buds are the disposable vape of headphones. The sound quality is still likely to be worse, but I can at least understand the tradeoff, and the ANC requires it be stuffed with electronics anyhow so why not also make it wireless.

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    When I was using my Sony Xperia, the headphone jack was pretty darn nice. I got some truthear hex IEMS and honestly the isolation was better than any NC headphones I’ve used, but I may just be lucky w the fit. <be> Bluetooth is cool, but so much e waste will become of true wireless, and even just most battery powered headphones because of the difficulty replacing battery. I know fairphone headphones have a replaceable battery which is neat. <be> IEMs are pretty cool. You can get cable replacements, Bluetooth adapters, and straight to USB cables too. Can recommend