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    Trump answered a voter’s question about failing school systems by saying, “No transgender, no operations—you know, they take your kid—there are some places, your boy leaves for school, comes back a girl. Okay? Without parental consent.” He added, “At first, when I was told that was actually happening, I said, you know, it’s an exaggeration. No: it happens. It happens. There are areas where it happens.”

    Good lord. In a world where people will believe something like this, what hope is there really.

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    We just keeping making it harder to be a teacher without paying them any more.

    How can we organize funding for a national teachers’ strike?

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      Their unions already have strike funds, so send money to the unions, ie AFCSME NYSUT etc

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      Dictators are never removed by peaceful means. You can’t vote them out. You can’t impeach them.

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      Have you noticed how nothing is being passed through the house or senate? He’s not getting impeached. It happened twice before with no results.

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        Yeah, I don’t know why I expect safety mechanisms to still work. It’s an adjustment getting used to the collapse of a democracy

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        At least there’s no more genocide going on anywhere in the world.

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        Top names on that list are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the Democratic political consultants who destroyed her campaign.

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        Such a reactionary take. There’s a more than good chance the election was manipulated through voter suppression and purges. If we continue to look to the past and blame each other for failing to prevent Trump, the fascists will continue to use that to their advantage. There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support. To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.

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          There will be many Trump voters that were misinformed that want to resist, we must welcome the support.

          There must be a path to redemption. It’s there for anyone who wants to take it.

          To get through this and move forward positively, we must look past grievances and work together.

          While this is true, that path to redemption has to be taken first. Until then, my grievances stand firm.

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          It also assumes the outcome of our election was ever going to be fair, as if the captured Supreme Court wouldn’t have intervened in a close election to give Trump the presidency anyway. Harris needed a landslide victory to have a chance to avoid the election getting stolen, and by August it was clear she could not get one.

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          Emotionally I’m not inclined to place another iota of effort into politics. I feel like I’ve wasted 20 years of my life obsessing over it.

          And with that I have zero desire to forgive anyone even slightly responsible for Trump’s victory. I don’t owe anyone shit, I did not choose to be born.

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            I am the exact same.

            8 years, as I only started caring about politics when I saw Trump stamping his little feet over all of the progress we had made after Obama.

            Now, I’m ready to watch this shit burn. Fuck it. I’ve got my one way ticket ready for when it truly goes to hell.

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          Has everyone collectively forgotten how Trump literally bragged that his buddy Elawn can hack the voting machines? It was like he was nodding to ‘the hacker named 4chan’ and grinning that he was on the payroll.

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        The only people beneath Trump supporters in this society are people that didn’t bother to vote. They are scum.

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      I have met people who voted for trump because they didn’t like Hillary, or didn’t like biden and “didn’t realize what he’d do” and far, far too many people he targets like immigrants who support him, for a Myriad of reasons, but many, saying he wont target us because we supported him or “He’s not going to target us, just ‘insert country here’”. The leopards earing faces voters are very real and have put so much on themselves and everyone around them.

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      I feel the mad in you, I sincerely do, but when the whole ocean is moving in a certain way due to underlying currents, it is incorrect to place the blame on any individual droplet, for none of them individually are responsible for it or have the power to control or alter it. Understand that the droplets themselves are moving because of the said currents. The best you can do is accept reality and plan your course ahead. The mad only burns you from inside without solving any problem.

      PS: to everyone commenting below me, now mad at me -

      1. everyone is accountable for their individual actions and I’m not absolving anyone of their individual responsibilities.
      2. I’m not telling you that you shouldn’t feel the mad, rather that I get the mad that you feel. I’m just as mad as you.
      3. After being mad at all your friends and family for say about a decade, you come to realize that most of them are simple minds susceptible to propaganda, and that propaganda works, and that it works because it appeals to the human instinct of individualism (incorrectly overriding collectivism) using tools like fear and anger. We need to rise over our own anger and other instincts to see all this so we can better move forward.
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        it is incorrect to place the blame on any individual droplet

        No, they each made the individual choice to back a fascist.

        Absolving them of that responsibility is the same infantilizing condescension that liberal media has been pushing for a decade now.

        You don’t get to tell me how to feel about those who made the people I love unsafe, and I don’t owe a single one of those fascist bastards forgiveness.

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        He’s not blaming individuals, he’s blaming a collective. A conglomerate of willfully ignorant, and often hateful, voters. So yes, don’t personally attribute this to Bill So-and-so, but if you see Bill fly a confederate flag and talk about trans kids, you know Bill is part of the collective and you can go ahead and add some blame on his pile.

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        If only the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials had you as a lawyer. They were only following orders, after all.

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        Nobody understands population statistics… Your entire post is correct at a higher level than those shouting individualism, but they cannot comprehend the aggregate consequences or truth.

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            Nobody is saying your emotions are invalid. Your feelings are very valid. Here’s a hug from me to you to prove the point (I hope it counts, lol). All I’m saying is that anger is instinctive & it clouds our judgement (like we literally can’t process any other thoughts while angry). If you calmly think about it, you instantly reacted and insulted me and other poster above you, you put us both in the ‘other team’, while we were both in your team all along. That my friend is anger leading to more individualism (you alone in your room) over collectivism (same team). That is the exact same weakness that is exploited by those doing the propaganda. And that is why we all need to rise over it.

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              I wasn’t looking for advice, and so I don’t really care what you have to say, which is why I deleted my comment to debate bro above.

              Find another mission.

              Fuck every fascist forever, and I don’t need the “tut tuts” of moderates. Anger is a very useful motivating emotion, and I’m never letting this fire burn out.

              Intentionally so, so spare me more of your condescension.

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    Blatantly unconstitutional, and he knows it. But the point isn’t to win on this issue, it’s to move the Overton window a little more and to sow more chaos.

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        It can still be used to cause delays and make things as difficult as possible for them.

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        Our nation is being led by an anti-democratic felon rapist conman with a long history of illegality. Yeah, our justice system is the butt of a joke.

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      It’s only unconstitutional until his SCROTUS lackeys reinterpret the Constitution to mean something it very clearly doesn’t.

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      This could actually be a good starting point for a nationwide action. Very few collective actions are as effective as a nationwide teacher strike. The call to action is also relatively straightforward. Something like “D.C. shouldn’t regulate what we teach in our classrooms “.

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    There’s just no words for this level of evil.

    The book burning and internet crackdown will surely start soon. Kiss the first amendment goodbye.

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          When the book bans first started here in Texas, there were documented cases of book burnings. I don’t have the energy to look it back up, but was reported in a few different cases.

          Edit - to be fair, these could have been backyard burnings by fuckwads, not full blown community wide bonfire style that would make national headlines

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    Being an educator in this day and age seems so difficult, we are taught all the studies and theories of healthy child development, how to promote healthy social emotional learning, but we must fight parents and increasely the law to maintain a safe, healthy social environmental layer.

    Good educators are already beaten down from so many things and have become rare, but I know most of my colleagues and friends have no intention of bending knee to this and policies aimed at hurting students we fight for, and I desperately hope this sentiment is shared by many across our country.

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          there are many more fully resisting each purge attempt. shits getting dark af right now, but dispair despair cannot be an option.

          get out and find community. I did a thing two days ago. stopped by one of the only houses in my neighborhood that openly opposed the trump collective before the election. let them know I (and my fam) were here if they needed anything. we shared ideas and history. face to face. in realtime. and we will be checking up on each other moving forward.

          edit: curnt speeeel.

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          That was, thankfully, a substitute teacher. Which means they don’t necessarily have any education in education.

          Thats not to say there aren’t scumbags just like them as full time employees, just noting not a regular teacher in that case.

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        Good educators are a rare and dying breed. Unfortunately probably a lot who either openly or secretly harbour similar feelings.

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          The good ones usually quit before they get tenure. They don’t get paid nearly enough for all the shit they put up with.

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            yeah, I know all customer facing jobs have big cons, and working fast food isn’t easy by any means, but I see McDonald’s hiring ads and sometimes I wonder, 25% raise and far less likely to get bit? almost tempting. I would probably still have to talk to people as if they are children.

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      That’s the point, that’s what they want and they want good teachers to be sick of it and leave so they can either put some uncertified person in your place or none at all and keep education for private schools. Trumpy said it himself, he loved the uneducated. It’s sadly all part of their plan to keep critical thinkers at bay so they can do whatever they want and nobody bats an eye.

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        Keep people uneducated, and feed them misinformation. yes, it is very unfortunate that is the federal policy for k-12 education.

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          To quote my maga father in law when discussing cutting funding to schools " I want them kids as ignorant as me"

          Soo trashy.

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    In the executive order issued Wednesday evening, titled “Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 schooling,” Trump directs the attorney general to work with local and state officials to investigate teachers who “unlawfully facilitat[e] the social transition of a minor student.” The order defines “social transitioning” to include using a trans student’s name and pronouns, recognizing a student as nonbinary, or allowing them to use the restroom that aligns with their gender identity.

    Ordinary people are going to have to start accepting the risk and actually fighting back. They’re a week and a half in, and already ordering Americans not to even recognise the existence of trans and nonbinary children, on threat of prosecution. It’s not just about denying them healthcare now (which in itself is terrible), it’s about preventing trans kids knowing anyone even sees them for who they are, or that they are seen and loved. The only outcome will be depression, loneliness and suicide, and Republicans want your kids dead if they don’t fit some very narrow mold they’ve pulled out of their own violent insecurities.

    People need to fight now. Each day people lie low and wait to see where this is going, the chances of ever fighting back get slimmer.

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      People tend to follow by example. “People should do this” and “people should do that” is all well and good, but unless you’re saying it while doing the thing you’re telling others to do, it’s not going to make much impact.

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        Agreed! In my little online ecosystem, there’s been a number of stories of federal workers resisting, cities teaching people their rights to thwart ICE, etc. Since that may or may not make it out of certain bubbles, we should be boosting stories like that and sending them around so others don’t feel alone and do feel empowered to resist.

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        I agree, mere talk online isn’t going to achieve much, but it might help demonstrate that this sense of urgency is shared.

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    What

    The

    Actual

    Fuck?

    By supporting they mean what? Calling the kid the name they want to be called by?

    They don’t necessarily need to explicitly teach gender and racial studies, whatever. But don’t tell my kids’ teachers they can’t be courteous to the kids. The kids don’t care one bit when someone who was a girl comes back saying they are a boy, they are nonchalant as fuck about it.

    You have lost this round, conservatives. The generation who will raise the next generation is already grown up with more reasonable teaching and parents who model tolerance, there are too many of us for you to be able to control us.

    Go back to your lairs and work on some other evil plan.

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      By supporting they mean what? Calling the kid the name they want to be called by?

      Yes.

      (e) “Social transition” means the process of adopting a “gender identity” or “gender marker” that differs from a person’s sex. This process can include psychological or psychiatric counseling or treatment by a school counselor or other provider; modifying a person’s name (e.g., “Jane” to “James”) or pronouns (e.g., “him” to “her”); calling a child “nonbinary”; use of intimate facilities and accommodations such as bathrooms or locker rooms specifically designated for persons of the opposite sex; and participating in school athletic competitions or other extracurricular activities specifically designated for persons of the opposite sex. “Social transition” does not include chemical or surgical mutilation.

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      They dont wanna go after todays kids, they want the next generation. One decade of control, and they can raise Gen Beta in the bigoted pseudo50s hellacape they always dreamed of

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    This really is reminiscent of early Nazi Germany, with an obsession over trans people (like Jews), and the idea that they’re the root of so much evil, and the constant implication that things would be better if they just go away…

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        Yes, and while you are absolutely correct, let’s also not forget that the early victims consisted not just of sexual deviants, but also of journalists, teachers, scientists, artists, etc. Basically any kind of intellectual, anyone who could threaten the propaganda machine. And political opponents, of course. Oh and books. Don’t forget books. And disabled people.

        Let’s see. Who is Trump attacking? Transgender people? Check. Teachers? Check. Scientists? Check. Political opponents? Check Intellectuals in general? Check. Anti-intellectualism has been going strong for a while now of course. Books (information in general)? Check. Librarians? Check. Disabled people? Not sure about this one.

        Trump and his cronies have watched a few WW2 documentaries and thought they were blueprints. His racism/bigotry might have a different prime target, but the whole playbook is a copy.

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          If an evil asshole were reviewing the history of Germany to try to avoid losing like the Nazis did, they’d see that they lost because the Allies, led by the United States, defeated them with superior military force. But if the Nazis WERE the United States, who would be able to do that?..

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            The allies weren’t led by the United States. The US industrial base was critical and the US military involvement was significant, but we were late to the effort and the Russians did a lot more of the fighting. (With a ton of US equipment for sure.)

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              Unfortunately, adding Russia to the list of countries who helped defeat the Nazis is just as unhelpful today. Just for fun, let’s throw in another country that helped defeat the Nazis: China!

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      Really it’s true but swap out trans for Republicans. (Things would be better without them)

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        I have fantasized about what the country would be like if we let them have their own land and government. So you’d be left with a “liberal” America and a “conservative” one as two countries. My prediction is the conservative one would be mostly dead of disease within a year or two and the liberal one would actually be able to legislate a bit, making incremental improvements like a functioning country

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          Depends, who gets the most weapons and troops? The Nazi country would try to conquer the other one at the first opportunity.