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Cake day: October 11th, 2023

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  • Ah, to clarify: Model Collapse is still an issue - one for which mitigation techniques are already being developed and applied, and have been for a while. While yes currently LLM content is harder to train against, there’s no reason that must always hold true - this paper actually touches on that weird aspect! Right now, we have to be careful to design with model collapse in mind and work to mitigate it manually, but as the technology improves it’s theorized that we’ll hit a point at which models coalesce towards stability, not collapse, even when fed training data that was generated by an LLM. I’ve seen the concept called Generative Bootstrapping or the Bootstrap Ladder (it’s a new enough concept that we haven’t all agreed on a name for it yet. we can only hope someone comes up with something better because wow the current ones suck…). We’re even seeing some models that are starting to do this coalesce-towards-stability thing, though only in some extremely niche applications. Only time will tell if all models are able to do this stable-coalescing or if it’s only possible in some cases.

    My original point though was just that this headline is fairly sensationalist, and that people shouldn’t take too much hope from this collapse because we’re both aware of it, and are working to mitigate it (exactly like the paper itself cautions us to do)





  • Wow, this is a peak bad science reporting headline. I hate to be the one to break the news but no, this is deeply misleading. We all want AI to hit it’s downfall, but these issues with recursive training data or training on small datasets have been near enough solved for 5+ years now. The nature paper is interesting because it explains the modality of how specific kinds of recursion impact broadly across model types, this doesn’t mean AI is going to crawl back into pandoras box. The opposite, in fact, since this will let us design even more robust systems.




  • How is it every time one of these lists comes out, they always slip religious oppression in as some deplorable act?

    “Oh god no, tell me they’re not oppressing the catholics! Oh who will sexually assault our children now???”

    It kinda undermines the gravity of the truly heinous things they’re doing when you include some deeply based & well deserved comeuppance for the rapist religious zealots in their country.

    Fuck the CCP for so many, many reasons, but I cant blame them for wanting the catholics to lose their social influence. I know, it’s not just the catholics, but for fucks sake can we stop veiling their crimes against humanity with the drapings of religious oppression? What they’re doing is awful on its own merits, we don’t have to be dogwhistled into thinking it’s bad just because religious oppression is a dumb social taboo.










  • Then… what? You’re coming back days later to “no u” a comment that lays out pretty explicitly an exception to what you’re presenting as a blanket rule. Do you… disagree? Are you just inexperienced enough with driving to not have had that happen to you? Adjusting to driving conditions takes time - even if it’s only for 6-7 seconds per incident, that’s still time where you’re forced to follow far too close to another car without an ability to prevent the situation from arising. You seem like you don’t understand that, sometimes, other people can be responsible for the situations you are put in through no fault of your own. Or, you’re a sith. A driving sith.

    Darth Subaru.



  • Legit reason: Chain of evidence. They can’t bring in an outside expert that hasn’t been vetted, and they especially can’t use equipment that has been outside their control and hasn’t been verified intact. Damn near zero youtubers would pass NSA vetting, which clearly rules out their equipment as well. The fact this is such an outdated tech means there’s no verified-trustworthy experts within or contracted with the government that can work with it, so they really are stuck not being able to do anything with this tech in house. Digital obsolescence is a very serious problem, especially in government (why do you think they pay so much for COBOL developers?) and this truly is a nontrivial issue to overcome.

    … Which is the bureaucratic legitimacy behind this claim. Obviously they could fix this, I mean duh. But it’s an actual hassle, and they see no benefit to going through it to reveal something they don’t see a point to revealing. So they just hide behind the legit issues, shrug, and know we can’t do anything about it.