In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇
Always try to provide:
-Server location (jurisdiction)
-Governance
-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency
-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)
-Pricing and links
If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.
#ProtonExodus
Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116
Edit:typo
this idea of if you use a product you have to support every belief the company have is absolutely insane, like why can’t you recognize that a company’s products and it’s beliefs are two separate things? yeah the beliefs do effect the product but not all of them (especially not in this case like bro its ceos personal belief), why are we living in a time where you either have to %100 support something or you have %100 be against it? the fact that even a small political stand that someone dont agree with can turn them against a company or even a person is crazy to me
anyway i understand you made this choice and even tho i dont agree with the reasoning ill also provide 2 alternatives for vpn: mullvad and ivpn, both dont require email for account creation and accept monero payment, you probably heard them before
for email i suggest hosting your own if you have the time, there is this great project named docker-mailserver and its really easy to setup, but if you dont want to go through the effort feel free to check numerous alternatives others provided
I agree with you but I also think it’s reasonable to not do business with an organization that you disagree with for a lot of reasons. One of the simplest reasons is that you’re giving someone that you disagree with more money.
I’m not a vegan myself but I understand and I appreciate how far vegans will go not to support animal cruelty. It’s the same thing really, you invest in businesses that don’t harm animals and so you’re doing your part even if at the end of the day the slaughter houses are booming.
While I certainly agree that it’s comical to expect a company to 100% support your beliefs, I’m also in favor of not using a company if the beliefs of said company are completely contrary to yours. That’s why I’m not using stuff like google, microsoft, amazon etc.
Voting with your wallet is a very good thing and I fully support people who do it.
People feel like the only vote they have that matters anymore is the one they can make with their wallet. You can’t tell people their politics are separate from their products when the CEO’s control the government through donations and lobbying.
Where do we draw the line?
I thought kissing the ass of Trump was our canary.
If it was just a political stance, I’d agree with you, but…it’s fucking Trump. That goes further than “Oh, it’s just a minor political difference” to me.