Vaccines turned me into a newt!
Joe Rogan is very much part of the misinformation media, he continuously gets guests talking crazy shit and he always nods along, yeah yeah, and people form some stupid reason just lap it up
Can we, for the love of fuck, put laws in placenthst require that as soon as a group of a certain size (say 50+) listens to you, that you are responsible for what you’re saying and that you’re required to ensure that your information is scientifically correct?
I’m sorry, but fuck free speech as so many people are raving about. Its the worst thing that has happened to the world since the Internet came on. All idiots now have a loud voice and the vast majority of humans apparently are very poorly equipped to weed out this bullshit.
No, your “pyramid curing cancer theory being blocked by big pharma” is NOT real, does NOT have a right to be heard, and is NOT a positive for humanity.
Yes, yes, we should be able to say what we want (within reason) but once you’d tart getting a following, that’s it. No more, PLEASE. YOU HAVE YO START BEING TRUTHFUL AND FACTUAL. Why do we continue to allow people to lie their asses off to groups to manipulate others? Hell, even US presidents do this in insane amounts. Even Obama lied at least a little in like 25% of is statements? And he was a low outlier. Trump lies about 90% of the time at pants on fire levels and we’re all fine with it. First amendment rules ftw!
Trump would never have been in power if we had something like this. Medical quackery would be gone as Dr Oz can no longer sell his snake oil bullshit. Churches would be gone, yikes… Imagine marketing if companies were required to be actually truthful about their products?
News organizations!
OMFG. So Fox news sues the US government to not be held to standards requiring them to be factual because first amendment… So quite literally everything coming from them today is a lie. Its all bullshit. Why do we allow this and just laught at them? Why does nobody see the danger of just allowing news organizations to lie to the populace to divide the people, to get false ideas in their heads, to fill them with false hatred…
If Fox news and the likes would have been required to be truthful there would be no trump, the racial divide in the US would have been a whole lot less than it is today. And when I mean truthful I also mean the things they focus on, the insinuations, the pundits with their opinions.
Why why why, why do we allow any of this? What the fuck, world? The first amendment is not worth ending up in world was three because we MUST allow special interests to lie yo everyone, first amendment!
Start requiring that companies MUST be truthful. Presidents and governments MUST be truthful in claims to their citizens. Celebrity or someone with a following? You must be truthful in your claims.
We either start growing up as humanity or this will be our downfall. We are at the edge of the end of humanity as we have known it for centuries due to climate change (and have no doubt, it fucking will end everything we know today) but can’t even have a basic discussion about how to stop or reverse this because special interests are allowed to use their news outlets to just scream that climate change is a hoax.
We just allow that. The theater is on fire and we can’t even have a discussion on how to escape out because even though the flames are right there, the theater owner keeps screaming over everyone that all is okay, there is no fire, we don’t have to escape.
Its gotten to the point where no meaningful discussion is possible anymore because we vant even agree about the basic facts in front of us anymore.
This has got to stop. The lies have to stop, we need basic facts.
Please let’s do that. Half of Lemmy would go to jail and the other half straight to the death row
Bruh… That’s some high hopes and a fuck load of effort for something that will never happen. Your suggestions are very much unrealistic.
I think you listed several good points. I believe a government that actually cared about its populace would help to protect people from propaganda. The problem is that this would require a government that was actually just. That is not what we have in the US at least.
I always think about it simply because it helps weed out what is really going on. Listen, if go to your doctor and they purposely give you bad advice they could be on the hook for it. They have licensing boards, oaths, insurance, and legal regulation to prevent them from saying things like horse dewormer good.
Why is it when we have influencers, talking heads, and politicians who can do much much more harm than one doctor giving bad advice allowed to operate without oversight, licenses, regulations, and ignore their obligation to society?
Let’s go back to simplifying this again. You would not tolerate someone in your personal life that lies and decieves you. Now think about people in authority. Would it be okay for your teacher, your coach, or your boss if they lied to you and manipulated you. They would lose their jobs if they did this and others find out.
We understand because of psychology and human nature that it is very easy to manipulate people and abuse them. That is why we hold the leaders close to us to high standards. Strangely though the more power people accumulate the less we seem to hold them to these standards when in fact we should even be stricter.
To be frank the reason we are not holding our most powerful people responsible is because they have been allowed to set the narrative. There is very little influence independent media has compared to mainstream media. If mainstream media creates an environment where it is just expected that politicians lie and are corrupt then everyone accepts it.
This is most definitely a conspiracy. Ever since propaganda became public relations we have seen those in power increasingly abuse their privileges. They have fine tuned the narrative to prevent themselves from being called out for the lies and damage they cause
They are using the best of psychology and other sciences to manipulate people. Drive their fear and hatred playing them like a marionette doll. We would never allow a partner to abuse us in this way but we allow someone who is way more powerful than a partner do this.
And make no mistakes these politicians are just like a partner because they are making intimate decisions about your personal life. They are invading our homes telling us what can and can’t do reproductively. They are threatening people’s livelihood. They are pitting Americans against each other for their own ends.
We need a new constitution that spells out that we will no longer be allowed to use the best of technology and science to manipulate people for selfish ends. We need rights to privacy, safety, and accountability. Until we grow up and stop allowing ourselves to be abused things will not improve.
The government must be designed to resist corruption not embrace it. Our current system is beyond broken with its winner take all two party nonsense. This binary choice is not a choice at all. You could never account for the diversity of thought and opinion with a choice between only two entities.
All of this is by design of course as the US was founded by the rich for the rich. I don’t know about you, but this is unacceptable. We have a cancer destroying our society and mainstream media pretends it does not exist because they part of that cancer.
We have lost the proverbial battle so far in the 21st century, but that does not mean we can’t demand change. The war for our future is not over yet. Don’t let people fool you either. Change can and does happen and until we demand it we will continue down this path of lies and deception.
and people form some stupid reason just lap it up
Stupid people love being stupid. Ignorance is bliss, after all.
Well, unfortunately, this is only going to get much worse when Trump takes over…
Unfortunately, he is the high king of Skyrim.
No facts for you. Only alternative facts!
It’s really quite scary how many people will believe claims from someone who has no qualifications on the subject just because they are an influencer. Ivermectin works on mites and other parasitic animals by paralyzing their muscles. Following this logic, it would be analogous to claiming that benzodiazepines cured my friend’s broken limb.
Fwiw, certain trained professionals who are licensed to practice recommend ivermectin in certain situations.
Methyl blue I heard one talking about how it’s interesting and they are evaluating it.
The ones I know are rabid leftists, who hate Trump, fwiw
Just because you’re on the left and hate Trump doesn’t mean you’re not a fucking moron lmao
You may as well join em
about how it’s interesting and they are evaluating it.
We’ve been using it for over a century in microscopy. You can find a few flasks in your local high school biology lab. We know exactly what it is, how it interacts with cells, what happens when you ingest it or let it drop in your hands or heat it and anything you could imagine.
It’s not “interesting” and nobody is “evaluating it” unless you’re deeply interested in using it in an arts and crafts class.
I read an article about these blue skinned people in the mountains that were given menthol blue to get rid of the blue skin color. I guess it can be ingested safely, but unless you have that genetic condition not sure what it does for you.
Edit: the blue Fugates
I wish I knew how to get these motherfuckers to care about anything as much as they care about ivermectin.
While they also claim to be skeptics of drug manufacturers and only want all-natural shit! It’s ridiculous!
Pushing an agenda usually has that effect
It is wild how they just jump from one thing to other mentioning things at random. “I know this guy who can point his finger at you and you will feel it, because you know… how did they build the pyramids?? This thing is like quantum physics”.
Is this the effects of too much ivermectin?Don’t even get me started on that fucking telepathy podcast
You know what, let them take advice from a twitching old man with obvious mental issues and dumbass who’s high all the time. If you’re dumb enough to take that shit, you’ll beat cancer to the finish line alright. The gene pool may slightly improve, but I’m not getting my hopes up.
I’m just waiting for Rogan to say DMT stops cancer and frankly I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet
What’s up with Mel? Does he have Parkinson’s or something similar? Or is he just strung out on cocaine? He was insanely, constantly twitchy the whole interview.
Probably something to do with all that ivermectin.
Drugs
Cocaine
Sadly he’s on a late stadium of being a cunt
These people treat knowable medical information the way that people a decade or so ago used to treat stories about ghosts or being abducted by aliens.
Sure, they were cured of cancer… until one day suddenly dropped dead, for no reason at all
Death is the ultimate cure for cancer.
Ever head of dim mak, buddy?
I am completely fine with the gullible killing themselves off. Why stand in their way.
“There’s no way this mfer would have made it past 10yo a couple hundred years ago…” 😆
Sometimes they kill their kids. It’s not really fair to the kids.
It’s like these people got trolled by 4chan and believed every single word they said.
Wait. Can we solve this by sending Joe and Mel a crystal growing guide?
Maybe convince them that they can get pure cat pee and mix that with bleach to create chloramine.
When inhaled, it can cure them of any respiratory illness. Permanently!
I have some green food coloring in the pantry. Will that help with hemoroids?
I can confirm it will not. All it will do is leak a bit and then you spend years trying to figure out which specific spice has a bit of food coloring on the bottom because every now and then you find a green circle on the counter.
Its like slightly worse than talking to marxists
How is it only slightly worse?
Well they’re both insufferable but i think only one is brought on by lead exposure
Totally misrepresented, you left out prayer
/s
When numbnuts have no power in society, it’s often dismissed as a fool’s errand to try to counter their crazy claims. But I think we all need to be countering the crazy at all times, not just when the biggest crazies are enjoying power and reach. Otherwise, we get Joe Rogan and Mel Gibson talking about curing terminal cancer with animal dewormer and Donald Trump winning a second term and appointing RFK Jr. to delete vaccines from history.
Horse/barn door situation, but still. It can always get worse.
We need to get Joe Rogan to think the key to eternal youth is uranium glass butt plugs
my uncle survived WW2 and lived to be 102 while wearing a uranium glass butt plug the whole time.
dude never shit solid a day in his life.
docs said he might have lived longer if not for the colon cancer.
