he is the worst regular in all of the treks I have seen (TOS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT)

his whole thing is representing White american baby boomer dudes

boring as shit

doesn’t belong in space

Torres can do so much better.

I don’t believe this shit about being such a hot shot pilot.

I think he was sent by the CIA.

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    Garrett Wang (Harry Kim) and Robert Duncan McNeill (Tom Paris) did a podcast called The Delta Flyers where they do a full episode-by-episode rewatch of Voyager and often rant about the many problems of the show (and about the bits they enjoyed, as well). Didn’t get through it all, but it was decent travel listening.

    Both of them are pretty often annoyed about how their characters (and most of the others) were stuck on a writing treadmill to obey that absurd syndication demand of an eternal moment, such that new viewers can drop in without feeling like they’ve missed anything.

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      Nitpick, but the treadmill was worsened particularly on voyager because it wasn’t syndicated. It was the flagship show for the new UPN network so it had even more suits mucking around. Kept Berman off the ds9 sets, so we should all thank Voyager for making ds9 good.

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      I’ve heard about this show but not listened to it. I will download a few eps and see how it is. I see they are on DS9 now; Terry Farell and Armin Shimmerman are co hosts.

      such that new viewers can drop in without feeling like they’ve missed anything.

      I mean in 2024 it’s easy to be annoyed about that but at the time of production that wasn’t really the wrong thing to do because it was reality of the medium. OTOH I don’t think it excuses a lot of the dumb decisions.

      DS9 has really benefited from streaming. I only came to understand and appreciate it after multiple re watches this way. Was far from a casual viewer originally. But it didn’t make sense. Even if you are willing and able to religiously watch every episode in order, having them separated by a week or months makes it too hard to follow.

      It would also be nice to have episodic TV and I don’t know that it’s always bad. IT just hasn’t been the style lately.

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      Both of them are pretty often annoyed about how their characters (and most of the others) were stuck on a writing treadmill to obey that absurd syndication demand of an eternal moment, such that new viewers can drop in without feeling like they’ve missed anything.

      If there’s anything about the modern streaming media format that’s a genuine improvement over previous TV network programming, it’s this. Writers are no longer forced to maintain a permanent “status quo” for a show, because anybody who wants to can always go back & rewatch old episodes, or just start at the beginning & catch up with the rest of the audience.