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Anyone remember zmodem with resume? Kermit??
Damn, I’m old.
Are people not downloading huge torrents anymore?? How is downloading some large thing overnight a rare occurrence of bygone eras???
My only guess is that kids these days don’t know about pirating and instead stream everything or download apps?
We have gigabit, 2.5 and 5Gbps speeds now. Even 100GB+ games download in less than 15 minutes. Literally nothing takes several hours anymore.
If you interrupt an internet connection on any normal torrent client from the last, like, 20 years, you can always resume when you’re back online. But back in the 90’s most software didn’t fail that gracefully. And the internet connections today just aren’t as flaky as a dialup connection was.
Web browsers still don’t have proper file download resuming capability despite web servers [nearly] all supporting everything needed for it.
God I wish Mozilla wasn’t run my MBAs. Web browsers could have been so good by now.
We still are but now we have gigabit service.
When you have dial up you quickly realize you need a download manager that can resume downloads
Maybe I was just unaware, but download managers only came a little down the pike. For a while it was just “Big file? Good luck!”. And there was something exciting about it.
Back in the 80s I ran my own homebrew BBS for a couple years. A second phone line then was only $9 more a month, so I got one for the computer so phone use wouldn’t be an issue. My roomies and I thought we were livin’ the life.
When I was really young, I was blown away the first time i met someone with their own phone line for internet lmao.
I remember you! Has that acne cleared up?
Anyone with dial up Internet trying to pirate knew the dreaded 4 words “UNEXPECTED END OF ARCHIVE”
my brother called this “the download fucked itself.”
56k line? We’ve all been there if we’re old enough.
This is why I was much more into mangas than animes as a teenager. Each anime episode took more than an hour to download… I could at least download mangas faster than I could read them.
The summer after my parents divorced I spent many nights in the corner of the now-empty house with one bar of wifi from my friends house with like 10 tabs of anime loading on an old Dell laptop I only made usable by installing Linux mint.
Good times? Idk, memorable tho for sure
DSL was such a game changer for so many reasons.
Not the least of which was that you could be online while someone was using the phone.
Shortly after, we completely stopped using phones.
Now we use handheld supercomputer/camcorder/communicators.
We stopped using landlines.
Phones are everywhere. I mean, they’re rarely used to talk to people like a landline would be, but they’re still everywhere.
4kb/sec
That’s why you queue the download before bed and logout in the morning.
Like and subscribe for more obsolete life skills.
One of the first things I ever programmed was a script that would turn the computer on around 1am, mute the audio, resume the download manager, and turn the computer off at 4am. This way I could download porn and cracked games without my parents knowing.
How did the script run if the computer was off?
I figured out how to schedule the machine to boot up at a specific time, then run the script
You can use a pencil to rewind cassettes after the tape got pulled out by the cassette recorder
Photo says it happened after 17hrs
As long as you sleep 20 hrs a day the tip stands!
Who was using dial up 15 years ago (2009)? I grew up in a very rural area and even we got broadband by like 2003 or so. I think someone got their math wrong.
Lol Napster shut down in 2002, it’s clearly not a present day tweet.
Napster ran from 1999-2002, meaning the tweet must be between 7-10 years old
Edit: or just be made up and a guess at the time dfferential.
Napster is currently alive as a Spotify competitor just as a notice
No, no it is not, an unrelated company bought the brand and logos at bankruptcy auction and started Napster 2.0, a rebrand of an unrelated music service, which was then bought by Best Buy and became Rhapsody, then THAT was sold to some tech companies and unified branded as Napster again. It has no connection other than branding to the original Napster.
Says no then goes on to explain that it is around and how it got there
There’s ship of Theseus and then there’s Theseus threw out the whole ship, bought a used ship from someone else but it was still called the ship of Theseus because it was, literally, the ship of Theseus, but you still wouldn’t say THE ship of Theseus was still alive and well.
An almost completely unrelated company named Napster is currently alive.
You don’t know how old this post is.
The house I grew up in just got a wired connection (fiber) in 2024. We had 3G by 2009 but the data caps and cost made it not ideal. Couldn’t even get ISDN.
I’m so thankful cable internet was the first kind I ever knew, around 1998.
Me, playing Age of Empires, blissfully unaware that some shmuck with DSL completely obliterated my settlement 45 seconds ago and my dialup connection just hasn’t caught up yet.
I must’ve put so many god damn viruses and backdoors in the family computer. Was generally smart enough not to run files called *.mp3.exe, but I downloaded my fair share of cracked games and keygens.
I used to love old keygens with their pixel art and chiptune music. That was honestly the best time to be on the internet.
A lot of them still have the music. They’re not quite the same as the old school ones, but some have some bangers.
I didnt even know keygens still existed, i thought everything just had a cracked executable these days. Im trying to think of the last one i saw, probably like 12 years ago, but it was more professional looking than most legitimate programs, with really amazing graphic design and music and a really well made ui. It wasnt just a keygen, there were other options, but i cant remember what else it did or what game it was for.
It’s mostly software that still has key gens
Also some cracks come with a lil keygen like thing that cracks the game right then and there. Those will sometimes have them too.
Jason Scott did a talk at defcon a while back specifically about warez pages in old video games. That scene was wild from the beginning.
99% of Duke Nukem 1st shareware disk over a 2400 baud modem and a local BBS… and Grandpa called :(
It wasn’t time to kick ass and chew bubblegum
Shake it, grandpa…
*70 yw
15 years ago?! This tweet must be 10 years old now
Edit: it’s from 2017, that makes more sense https://x.com/AngryManTV/status/906298612786884609
That would put the original post in 2002, 4 years before Twitter was founded, 2 years before Facebook was founded, 1 year before Myspace was founded and 5 years before Tumblr was founded
So a better time all around.
It still doesn’t make much sense. In 2002 people were already using torrent protocol, that allows to download files in chunks. You can download the missing 3% of your file latter. And even before torrent there was a Direct Connect protocol and DC++ client.
Torrents hadn’t really taken off in 2002, it was more Kazaa and eDonkey2000 from my recollection.
Yeah and Limewire/Bearshare/AudioGalexy/Morphus/WinMx
Okay now I’m sad I missed eDonkey, was it really different than Napster, Kazaa and such? Or was it the same old, you download a movie and find out once it was downloaded that 5% percent of the time it was beastiality. Fucking weird times man.
eDonkey wasn’t like napster/kazaa/ and the rest, but it wasn’t quite like torrents either. It was kinda weird tbh, but it was far easier to get and distribute stuff and i was sad when it died.
Was it p2p whole files using a GUI searh or how did you find the content
It was P2P as it used file hashes to look for other clients to share the file so you didn’t need to rely on downloading from specific users directly like napster, but the other features depended on when you used it and what client. Originally, it was centralized and wasn’t that different than its contemporaries in how you used it, but then an improved client was released (eMule) and it added support for a second decentralized network (KAD) and it also used compression and had a bunch of better features like robust bad IP blocking (RIAA was ramping up their bullshit around then) and way to disguise the traffic to prevent ISP snooping/blocking.
Not sure about anyone else, but I used a website with eDonkey links (which also worked in the Overnet client)
I was torrenting in 2001/02. Had this awesome little client with Chinese characters that worked great, but took me a minute to figure out which buttons did what.
Pretty sure I still have the stand-alone file on a USB somewhere.
BitTorrent wasn’t even launched until AFTER Napster was shutdown.
The mention of Napster would have put the original download this tweet refers to as happening sometime before July 2001. But, it’s entirely possible they were using Napster as a generic term for any number of the other protocols around in 2002, most of which didn’t have the ability to resume. BitTorrent would have been the anomaly here for its resumabilty, but was rarely used for music privacy at the time. PirateBay and Demonoid launching later in 2003.
The whole Napster thing was pretty brief, I only remember it really being around for like 6 months. Then it got shut down and everyone moved to the alternatives that had resume and other features, like eDonkey and Kazaa. I really can’t remember what order they came in though.
This got me looking and unfortunately possibly found a bit of info that debunks the whole tweet. Napster was completely gone by July 2001. So this guy either has the date wrong(by like 15months) or it wasn’t a Napster download. Kazaa would be out by then too probably so that leaves Limewire, but that used torrenting protocols so it wouldn’t have had the same susceptibility to a loss of connection.
It was likely BearShare, but they were embarrassed to admit it.
Thank God we got down to the truth of the tweet. I was really worried.
You know you don’t have to be a jackass to people right?
You know you don’t have to be anal over things that don’t matter right?
What other memes have you “debunked” recently? That seems like a great use of your time and energy.
I’m sorry curiosity has left your life entirely. Also fuck you.
Napster also let you resume unfinished downloads anyway.
It was there a bit closer to two years. Kazaa and edonkey kicked off after Napster got in trouble.
🎶 Once in awhile, maybe you will feel the urge
To break international copyright law
By downloading MP3s from file-sharing sites
Like Morpheus, or Grokster, or LimeWire, or Kazaa
But deep in your heart, you know the guilt would drive you mad
And the shame would leave a permanent scar
’Cause you start out stealing songs, then you’re robbing liquor stores
And selling crack and running over school kids with your car 🎶
Remember ‘allofmp3’ aka ‘alltunes’ ?
I think AllofMP3 had the best business model - price varied based on how high quality you wanted, and they offered soooo many formats. With no DRM, of course.
Is it really the customers’ problem if the USA and Russian copyright organizations didn’t communicate very well?
Sure, and all 5 people who were using torrents in 2002 were having a grand old time with them, too, I’m sure.
While yes it existed, it was not very widely used. I think I downloaded my first torrent in 2005 or 2006ish. That was about when the clients got much more popular. Still took forever to download shit though.
