I can’t even be mad at the people in that sub, they’re first-class entertainment

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      And at the same time, there is plenty of evidence refuting so-called genocides like Xinjiang, like the fact that the population numbers went up, instead of dropping like you’d normally see. Of course the evidence like you mentioned would also be there.

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      B-but all the anti-Stalin books that make up new claims every so often but all go back to the same few debunked sources. If there’s enough people agree with the position I already decided on it must be true.

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      The comment ‘those on the far left who defend North Korea are really no different from Holocaust deniers’ was what irritated me the most. Anybody who says that definitely hasn’t read Denying History: Who Says the Holocaust Never Happened and Why Do They Say It?. Aside from showing how the deniers operate (sometimes elevating their deception to the level of a business), it shows that we have plenty of good reasons to consider the Shoah factual: hundreds of documents authored by all sorts of people, photographs taken by all sorts of people, camps that we can still visit, inferential evidence (population demographics), and eyewitness testimony from a huge variety of people, from ordinary survivors to Sonderkommandos to SS guards to commandants to local townsfolk and even to high‐ranking Axis officials. How does the evidence for the DPRK’s rumored atrocities come close to that?

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        There’s a huge difference between why there’s sufficient evidence to the occurrance of the Holocauast, and why the average liberal believes it. The latter has nothing to do with the reasons you’ve given, they believe because they’ve been told enough times to accept it. As far as they know, there’s as much evidence for the hololdomor and literally anthing bad that could be happening in Xinjiang. There have been a comparable number of headlines saying “there be genocide here” for the others, and that’s the level of scrutiny they have.