• Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Remember, Pelosi has a net worth over $200mil.

    “It’s a big club, and she’s in it.”

    Pelosi fucking sucks. AOC for pres.

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      9 hours ago

      none of the contemporary democrats have experience fighting fascists.

      usually because they don’t recognize their financial advisors as being fascists

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    “I’m probably going to die before my term is over, but I need to ratfuck the next generation of politicians so fascists get even more chance at fucking over more Americans.”

    Might as well just vote yes on everything Trump says, Pelosi.

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    this is why democrats will keep on losing. Aggressive campaigning against progressives. That’s how they tanked Berny who had a real shot at trump at the time. They have mothballed trump indictments when they’ve had a chance to impeach him, they have gagged them this campaign and result is for everyone to see… Pelosi is a very mean and very capable machine of destryction when it comes to progressives and their ideas

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      9 hours ago

      I wish people would stop saying this. She would lose. I like her, but that doesn’t change the fact that she is not going to be president.

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        Why would she lose?

        The normies would project whatever fantasy they want onto her, and she’s hot so it could be positive delusions.

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          I’m not them and I’d happily campaign my ass off for AOC, but I expect Whitmer. Who I’d take over the likes of Shapiro or Newsom any day.

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        She’s a real feisty one who’s only willing to go so far into being “corporate.” With the inevitable loss of Bernie, she will become the most recognized face of progressives in Congress. Her sharp tongue and wit, combined with an excellent ability to get her points made succinctly would serve her well in any attempt to run. She’s more lively and personable than Harris ever was.

        I’d say she has an excellent shot at the White House if she so chooses.

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        That’s what they would have said about Obama in 2004 if anyone knew his name back then…

        AOC could, should, and hopefully will run

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    No surprise there.

    Establishment Democrats would rather have power held by Republicans than by progressive Democrats.

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      And AOC has been kowtowing to Pelosi for the last few years in hopes of going along to get along. Hopefully this will wake up progressive Democrats to realize they will never be accepted by corporate Democrats, no matter how much they move to the right to appease them.

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    Fuck everything about Pelosi and her bullshit insider trading.

    She’s not there to help Americans, she’s there to maximize her and her husbands investments.

    “Blue no matter who” winds up like ghouls like this running the party, because they’ll never give up personal.power, and corrupt enough to sell out for campaign donations.

    We have to have more standard than the letter by a name.

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      I don’t know much about her, but what little I do know, she’s the Democrat’s version of McConnell.

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        Nope, McTurtle got rich along the way. But his lifelong goal has been packing the courts.

        He is literally salivating like he just walked into a salad bar at the 42 vacancies Biden is about to hand over.

        Pelosi doesn’t give a shit about the Dem platform or helping people. She wants America to stay in the early 90s, that used to be enough to be considered somewhat progressive.

        But the early 90s were 30 years ago. Imagine calling someone in the early 90s progressive because they wanted America to go back to pre civil rights movement.

        That’s the same time frame.

        The right move was forming a serious left third party decades ago. We’d have a right, center, and left party and nothing would get done without some compromise between the wings, likely leading to a more fluid party structure.

        We’d never see this shit where a handful of republican extremists sabotage everything no matter who has the majority.

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          No, a third party is non viable. But the right move would have been exactly what the crazy right wingers have done with the Republicans. Get organized and primary the fuck out of the people blocking things.

          The “tea party” gave us the blueprint, but we’ve been too dumb and lazy to follow it. When they didn’t give us the public option with Obamacare, every primary since then should have been about cleaning house of the corporatist, establishment Democrats and replacing them with real progressives. But since we’re too lazy and dumb to vote in primaries in mass numbers, their establishment people keep sailing to victory.

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    You know she’s a great candidate for the people when her own party leaders don’t want her in power.

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        And the Democratic establishment fucking LOVED Clinton and still do. She lost to Trump. Your logic is perfectly sound if you just want to lose.

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    Funny that lemmy.world keeps whining about .ml types trying to get people not to vote when these fucking neoliberal ghouls are a better argument against it than anything they could ever say.

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      I vote Democrat because the other option is a Fascist, Democrats do this shit like breathing and it only makes me hate filling the bubble of “Not the open fascist party” party.

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        I’ve always wanted to ask how nice that sheriff was. I’ve read that he let you take visitors in his office and whatnot.

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      I mean… Yes. They are less evil. Way less evil. It’s not even close.

      Pelosi is a giant piece of shit, but she doesn’t make the top 75% of conservatives.

      Also AOC is a goddamn gem. Conservatives have previously zero of those.

      Are Democrats anywhere near where I want to be? No. But I can’t see how anyone could say they’re the same.

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        There is a seemingly, almost intentional obtuseness to internal criticisms of the DNC from folks on the part of Democrats.

        Fundamental to why the right has been able to organize a fascist takeover of this nation is actions like this from the Democratic party. Fascism in this country wouldn’t be ascendant if the DNC didn’t rat-fuck Bernie, twice. Health care CEO’s wouldn’t be getting gunned down in the street if the DNC forced M4A instead of the corporate sellout of Obamacare in 2016. Trump would not have won if Democrats had focused their efforts and spent their political capitol on issues that would make a fundamental difference in peoples lived experience in the period of 2021-2024. We wouldn’t be in this position if Democrats didn’t slow walk the prosecution of Donald Trump, effectively sitting on their hands until an election year to start taking action.

        The state of this country is a direct consequence of the managerial class politics, which is all that the DNC has come to represent in a post 2024 world. They enable and empower the ratchet effect that allows the rightwing to become more and more fascist, because they are only ever willing to be a lessor evil.

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      She’s not even the leader anymore (that’s Hakeem Jeffries) she’s doing this just because she’s a ghoul.

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        I mean, she no longer holds the title of House Speaker, but the idea that Jeffries is the leader is a joke. After Harris lost, NYT was interviewing Pelosi, not Jeffries. She didn’t let Jeffries take over because she was abdicating power; she was deflecting criticism.

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    Oh, Pelosi bad…

    Ever stop to think that she may owe political favor to AOC’s competitor? The democrats hold elections for chairs, and there is lots of this.

    Nevermind…

    Pelosi bad…