Banned from c/vegan for this one. My bad.

Captions: Anakin Padme 4-panel:

  • “I’m going to make everyone go vegan and eat soybeans.”
  • “So we won’t destroy any more ecosystems, right?”
  • …
  • “We won’t destroy any more ecosystems, right?”
    • Zerush
      26·
      3 years ago

      As I said before, the most used complement is yeast, by definition not vegan, because are bacterias, others are complements of vitamines and trace elements, made by the industry, obtained in artificial manner.

      • Faresh
        7·
        3 years ago

        How is yeast not vegan? Also, yeast is not bacteria, but rather fungi. Vegans do not eat animals and animal derived products. Fungi, bacteria, plants, protozoa and all that stuff is not animals, although they are living things.

        And what is wrong with artificially produced complements?

        • التنينوكس@social.touha.me
          1·
          3 years ago

          @Faresh @Zerush Don’t artificially created products generally harm the environment a bit more than regular food products? I mean not all the time and not that much harmful but a least one degree more hafumul. Like more heat oand CO2 emissions.

        • Zerush
          22·
          3 years ago

          Yeast, also used in the elaboration af bread, beer and other alcoholic drinks, is a bacteria, not fungi. Artificial products are not generally bad, but for example sintetic vitaminic and mineralic complex are not so good metabolized as these in natural products, because they lacks of other substances which helps the own metabolism. More simple, you can’t substitude a lemon by a citric acid or ascorbic acid (vit.C). pill. Fungi also isn’t a plant, it’s a own specie between flora and fauna, because of this also not accepted by strict vegans.

          All of the living in this planet have the same bioquimic base, the human isn’t a exception, he also is a colective of billons of specialized living cells, apart ~3kg of bacterias in our intestine, without we can’t live. We have in 70% the same DNA as a Onion.

          • Slatlun
            2·
            3 years ago

            Wow, doubling down for some reason. Not eating animals doesn’t mean only plants, and yeast is a fungus. Yep the one in beer, bread, extracts, etc. It is a single celled fungus and vegan by absolutely everyone’s definition.

            • Zerush
              11·
              3 years ago

              Fungus isn’t a vegetal in the strict sense, because of this, it isn’t vegan.

              • Faresh
                3·
                3 years ago

                You are completely misunderstanding the vegan diet. As I and @Slatlun@lemmy.ml said before, being vegan only means you abstain from animals and animal derived products. You can eat everything that wasn’t obtained from animals. So there’s nothing wrong with eating fungi. Some mushrooms, are in fact a very rich source of proteins.

                • Zerush
                  11·
                  3 years ago

                  I am not misunderstanding the veganism, I know that some vegans also include mushrooms as option, depends of a personal preference to exclude only animal products or limiting the diet to pure vegetables. The last can’t include Fungi, because they are not really vegetables. Anyway nor of the vegetable protein has the same cuality of these of animals. Plant proteinas, most in legumes and nuts, not so in Fungi, are much more simple in their composition and not so well assimilated by ourmetabolism, becaise of this the needed complements in the diet.

                  • Slatlun
                    3·
                    3 years ago

                    I guess it is time to be blunt. You don’t know the basic definition of veganism. You don’t have a firm grasp on how life is classified (you are right mushrooms aren’t plants, but no one said they were). You don’t seem to fully understand proteins and metabolism. None of that is a problem. We are all learning all the time. You could gain that knowledge by taking a minute to do an internet search to see if you might not be completely right. These are things that I am very familiar with and I still did a quick check for changing definitions and new science before I responded.

                    edit: grammar