• Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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    If it weren’t so sad, it would be almost funny.

    So many people are waking up to the fact that… Most people are functionally illiterate children with no understanding of the world they live in.

    The easiest way I have to explain it:

    You use your phone every day. You know how to use it, menus in and out, all the different programs and their uses. But if I were to pop open the cover and take one single piece out, you would never know, and you would never be able to use it again. Without someone else, you have absolutely no clue how to go about fixing it. You can push it’s buttons all day, but when it comes down to how it functions at the basic levels, you are clueless.

    So am I, by the way. I don’t have any reason to know how to build or program a phone. Or computer. I can push their buttons all day though! Even hidden buttons. But if everyone else on the planet disappeared tonight, I would effectively be living in the 1500s, as that’s about where my technical understanding of things ends. (scavenging for replacement electronics notwithstanding, once something electronic breaks, it’s gone since I can’t exactly run a semiconductor factory by myself, or the mines to get the materials)

    My point is, most people only know how to “push the buttons” of the world. They have very surface-level understandingsof it. But when it comes down to it, they don’t understand how the internals actually function.

    Sorry if this rambled a bit, I hit the bowl as soon as I got home from work.

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      That’s absolutely true, but I can’t get how people didn’t watch or listen to the Toupee for even a couple seconds and not instantly realize he’s full of more shit than an outhouse.

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        That’s my latest flavor of denial: I don’t think they do have any firsthand knowledge. It’s all what their echo chamber tells them. After all, no one can watch or listen to the toupee for even a couple seconds and not realize ….

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      This is a funny take I haven’t heard. Maybe it’s a bit true.

      People I talk to seem to have little understanding of Trump policies. Like it’s mostly projection.

      One person I spoke to with a Trump pin said these two statements: “I don’t like where the country is heading everything is expensive. The government spends too much money”… “yeah we got to support Ukraine, Russia would not have invaded if Trump was president. Russia needs to loose and go home so we can end the war”

      … like okay? And Trump will help any of this how, as a lap dog to Putin who blew up the budget and raised taxes on those making less than $500k?

      These people vote for people who tell them what they want to hear and project the rest… you know morons.

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        These people vote for people who tell them what they want to hear and project the rest

        I think it’s even farther removed from that … these people vote for people their echo chamber tells them are better for reasons their echo chamber tells them what they want to hear, and they never have the awareness to find out from the donvicts mouth. …. You know, morons

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      As a single person you’d be pretty good for the rest of your (still probably short) life. But honestly, I think ascribing button pushing to some of these people is a stretch. They know the particular buttons to open their social media, or maybe even access their banking, but any mention of settings and you get a blank look. I see that with every generation now, working in IT. It used to just be the boomers, but tech knowledge seems to have degraded over the years.

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        I felt something die inside me when I realized “display settings” was going way too far into technical territory for most people.

        All I was trying to do is tell someone why their screen shuts off “so quickly” after two minutes.

        I had to send them step by step pictures with big red circles.

        And this was someone I had thought to be intelligent enough to figure something out, and tech-minded enough to know what I was talking about. Turns out they just like buying whatever fancy new gadgets they see in commercials.

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      Sorry if this rambled a bit, I hit the bowl as soon as I got home from work.

      Still have Keiko trapped in the transporter buffer, I see.

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      I mean I know enough which candidates are the “lesser evil”, but I’d never fully understand how the global economy works.

      Most people aren’t gonna understand everything, and that’s fine. But it shouldn’t take much to know who to not vote into office. But unfortunately… it does seem like making a simple choice is a huge hurdle in many peoples minds.

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    And MY fucking loved ones. And lots of other people’s fucking loved ones.

    My anger grows each and every day. I don’t know how I’m going to make it through what’s coming either from a mental health perspective or from a keeping my family safe perspective.

    YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! AH, DAMN YOU! GOD! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

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    Queer people voting for conservative politicians will never cease to amaze me. I discovered a queer acquaintance who I had friended on Instagram was following Trump, Pierre Polievre, and that insane Randy Hillier, which shocked me. Why would you do that? They hate queer people.

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      Because they’re not single issue voters, would be the rational explanation. But probably they also haven’t bothered to reasonably research who has what agenda. If you’re into politics, it can come as a surprise, but many people really don’t want to know anything about it, and they work hard to learn as little as possible.

      I’m not blaming them for developing a strong dislike to politics, considering how dirty almost everyone is, but I hope that people can realize that ignoring a thing you don’t like doesn’t make it go away.

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      There is a big difference between voting/supporting them and following them on social media. I encourage everyone, Left as well as Right, to follow people, pages and communities of the other side. You should know the story the other side tells itself. Even if you don’t agree with it - it’s better to not agree with the real thing than to fight straw men in echo chambers.

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    You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl’s Jr.

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    At lunch yesterday, I overheard two women talking about how they should totally be hired for the new department of government efficiency, and how they have a lot of great ideas to offer from their years of experience in federal jobs.

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    I was expressing election stress to someone over Discord and they told me they didn’t want to talk about the election (which is fine in itself) because “Joe and Trump are both bad.” 💀 I’m like… Do you not even know how the candidates are? I didn’t want to push the topic because they didn’t want to talk about it, but I’m sure the answer would’ve annoyed me.

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      No. They really don’t. I was getting some coffee at a drive-up place where they always leave the window open after they take your money, so you can hear them talking. This was maybe a month before the election. One of the workers thought Trump was still the president. They had to tell her who Joe Biden is.

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      That’s a pretty common authoritarian propaganda technique. Like, most Russians do think Putin is bad but they’ve also bought into the idea that all politicians are bad. They don’t realize that most people aren’t former KGB agents in bed with the Russian mafia.

      Both candidates (in this case a candidate and a former candidate) being bad might be true but it doesn’t mean both are equally bad. And it’s always “both are bad” never “both are good”.

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    Has anyone been verifying that these kinds of posts lately are real? Certainly some trump voters are already having buyer’s remorse, but these posts can just as easily be made up by people who want to play off our emotions and manufacturing further outrage and division. Just saying.

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      At least from my personal experience, they’re all too believable, and I’m sure plenty of others here have similar stories.

      A couple of nights after the election I spoke to my father, and he could tell I was quite upset. He told me how I shouldn’t worry because Trump was going to make everything better since “Joe and the Ho” hadn’t done anything. Not even one or two sentences later he was telling me about how he needed to get all of this medical work done by the end of the year (he is on Medicare), because his Medicare agent told him they expected a good majority of those benefits to be cut next year by the upcoming administration…

      Between the many similar stories from other family members and friends, the increased searches for “Project 2025” and “change vote”, I really don’t think it’s a stretch at all for most to accept these as true, because many people are experiencing it firsthand.

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    These are the people who vote on vibes and emotions, it’s important candidates and politics don’t discount them because they’re the main voter block.

    They’ve been reacting to the perceived moralist shaming of WOKE since 2014, and the right have kept that perception around whilst mocking it, being unPC, and joking around to show they’re “cool guys”.

    So when Kamala makes a face when Trump says something about eating cats, the left think he’s an idiot whilst emotional voters think he’s play a game, joking and she’s being rude/shaming.

    Or when he dresses like a garbage man, and the left calls them stupid for enjoying it, that pushes emotional voters towards voting for him, and away from voting for her/them.

    Dems lost sight of the emotional game/narrative being played. So he played the fun guy, they played the shaming upright moralists who can’t take jokes and want to be serious or angry all the time (often bejng baited into this role).

    Made for an easy choice for emotional voters. It was not rational (hence the regret). But it’s what got the Republicans into office.

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    personally, this cycle the best thing i have under my belt is karma.

    I hope republicans/conservatives have to learn their lesson the hard way around.

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      Narrator: unfortunately, they won’t as they are unable to correlate their struggles and hardships with their choices. This is another evidence of the planned degradation of education in the USA that creates a large number of uneducated voters who can be manipulated for votes

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      I hope so, but given that we already know drumph will do a terrible job from… IDK, four years ago?

      … I think that it’s likely that this lesson will ever be learned.

      In the most simplest, all I want is for people to look at the platforms and what each party wants to achieve before putting a mark beside their name at the voting booth. That’s it.

      If you can, with good conscience, vote for someone, knowing what they want to do for the people, then you deserve whatever they do if they win. If you vote without knowing what their plan is, that doesn’t absolve you, in fact, you’re probably more guilty than if you knew what you were voting for.

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      I hope republicans/conservatives have to learn their lesson the hard way around.

      You are banking on people who have likely never picked up and read a single book after high school, and who likely read at a fifth grade level or less, to learn?

      Especially when they have proven themselves to be such gullible rubes and suckers, uncritically swallowing everything the alt-right says like a herd of sheeple?

      Buddy… you sound as reality-avoidant as they are.

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        You are banking on people who have likely never picked up and read a single book after high school, and who likely read at a fifth grade level or less, to learn?

        hunger is a very strong motivator, what can i say.

        Buddy… you sound as reality-avoidant as they are.

        listen bro, karma is the only thing i have going for me right now ok.

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          hunger is a very strong motivator, what can i say.

          And these people will gladly “starve to death”, either to “own the libs” or because they have bought so deeply into the lies and propaganda that it has become a critical part of their being and the cognitive dissonance of trying to learn the truth would be more painful than said starvation.

          Fact-free ideology is one hell of a powerful drug.

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            what can i say, i revel in the suffering of others, brought upon themselves. Maybe it’ll knock some sense into some of them, knock a few others off of the map like covid, and throw a few into the deep end.

            These things need to continue spiraling, and they can’t spiral forever, it has to stop somewhere. At the bottom most likely. Where i will be waiting, smugly.

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    stupid and ignorant people are going to be the death of our species. And if that happens, we fucking deserve it.

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            i’m just so tired of watching world slowly march towards hell and drag me with it. cant do anything because doing anything alone is as good as doing nothing because no one cares about anything. best i can do is talk about it in internet and i dont think that is doing anything either. but doing absolutely nothing feels like watching someone rob you while you smile politely out of fear

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    How does she figure the president isn’t allowed to do something? Especially in today’s political climate?

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      Especially when he literally said he’s going to be a dictator.

      And it’s funny, because at the same time they already think the president can do whatever he wants since they think he can control gas and grocery prices.