• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
    776·
    14 days ago

    Huh…I spent so much of my life concentrated on the fact that Mary was a lying slut who absolutely had sex with someone. Thus making Jesus not only NOT God’s child, but also by definition a bastard…that I never thought about the story from the perspective of it being true. If you take the story at face value, and God impregnated Mary in her sleep? That makes God a rapist who didn’t get consent.

    • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
      25·
      14 days ago

      Yep. Pretty fucked no matter which way you look at it…

      Has anyone informed you of Sithrak the Blind Gibberer?

    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
      22·
      14 days ago

      Actually an angel appeared and told Mary she was chosen. She said “aight bet.” So, technically consent.

      • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
        181·
        14 days ago

        Your boss shows up and says, “you’ve been chosen”. Say no and you’re fired…

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
      20·
      14 days ago

      Jesus was a bastard who was BFFs with a prozzie, did violence against the wealthy, and spurned authority. God might not listen to Slayer, but I reckon Jesus would have

    • Grass@sh.itjust.works
      18·
      14 days ago

      In school I tried to bring up this theory that the three wise men all thought they were the father and came bearing gifts for that reason and mary was either lying or totally clueless/tricked. It wasn’t well received but nobody was able to refute it with relevant bile quotes or anything.

    • Synapse@lemmy.world
      131·
      13 days ago

      Mary was not virgin until they changed the story later around A.D. 300, during the Romain Catholic Church.

      • MonkderVierte
        3·
        13 days ago

        You have a source to read that up? At least in 452, they (some) were already pretty sure about her being virgin.

        Dioscorus then moved to depose Flavian of Constantinople and Eusebius of Dorylaeum on the grounds that they taught the Word had been made flesh and not just assumed flesh from the Virgin and that Christ had two natures.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Chalcedon

        Edit: the bible was written ca. 300 after christ tho. Probably because of this.

        • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          13 days ago

          452 is after 300 so that would be consistent with OP, however, here’s a “source” such as it is claiming her virginity in 150 AD https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_James

          OP might be confusing the adipartheos of Mary - the belief that she was a virgin before, during and after the birth of Christ. Some even go as so far as to imply Jesus wasn’t born like a human and emerged in some other way, which I’ll leave to the readers imagination.

    • Isoprenoid@programming.devEnglish
      10·
      14 days ago

      That makes God a rapist who didn’t get consent.

      If we take the story at face value, he did get consent.

      And Mary said, “Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.”

      • Luke 1:38
  • JayObey711@lemmy.world
    66·
    14 days ago

    There is a Christian bedtime story where I’m from. In the end it says something like “and you’ll wake up in the morning if god wants you to”. wtf what if god doesn’t want me to wake up tomorrow.

      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        12·
        13 days ago

        Muhammed had a 9yo wife (but it’s “totally cool” because he didn’t fuck her until she was 11, I’m assured…), it’s not just Christianity.

        Also iirc people had babies about once a year starting around 14 until they died at 30 of any number of causes, and that’s if they made it past infancy since the infant mortality rate was so high, which was also why people had like 20 kids. Frankly it’s relatively recently that the standards we know today were put in place, and I’m happy for the strides we’ve made but there’s still room for improvement, but this type of shit happened by all religions for most of recorded history and probably before that until like, 19xx.

        Coming back to add in an edit, here’s an article I saw this morning.

        https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/iraq-proposes-lowering-legal-age-of-marriage-for-girls-to-nine/ss-AA1owxoj

        It’s definitely not just Christians, this is from today.

        • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          13 days ago

          Yeah, this is one of those cases where it very much was a standard of its times. Even in societies that were generally egalitarian ya saw it since well as you stated infant mortality was real fucken high and giving birth wasvery dangerous.

      • Billegh@lemmy.world
        1·
        12 days ago

        I hope it isn’t the deific version of the thing I have for goth girls. I won’t stand a chance anymore.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      2·
      13 days ago

      If god is anything like the dominionists, his only thing for goth girls is “convincing them to become trad wives”. (I knew a few of these guys unfortunately, the very few that managed to get laid turned out to be massive abusive assholes)

  • ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    13 days ago

    The Rapture = At literally any moment, your little child self could be snatched violently upward into space/some unknown cosmic destination to the sound of blaring celestial trumpets from the skies, etc. This is 100% real and seems increasingly likely, by the day.

    Night-night, sweetie!

  • NeilBru@lemmy.world
    7·
    14 days ago

    I honestly think that if a personal, knowable, and forgiving god exists as the god-botherers say they believe in, then he/she would get down with some Slayer and chuckle at the irony of listening to such music.

    Why can’t a god have a sense of humor?

    • Mac@federation.redEnglish
      4·
      13 days ago

      I approve of Lemmy being God. My mom has a couple great stories playing cards and smoking joints with them while they had the groupies come in and out lol.

  • niktemadur@lemmy.world
    11·
    13 days ago

    For a second or three there, I read that as:

    When I was a kid,
    a priest told me about Mars

    • hakunawazo@lemmy.world
      6·
      12 days ago

      Reminds me on this old joke:
      A man running from the police runs into the Catholic church and hides in confession box.

      Another person enters the other side and says “Forgive me Father for I have sinned”.

      The man not wanting to get caught says, “What have you done my daughter?”

      She says, “I have had anal sex with my boyfriend, I know sex is for making children, please forgive me . What is my penance?”

      The man not knowing what to say, quickly opens his side of the confession box and sees a choir boy walking by , “Hey Kid what does the Priest give for anal sex?”

      He responds, “A can of pop and a bag of chips”