• Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    18 hours ago

    Should we give people an incentive to vote by promising material improvements in their lives then fulfilling those promises?

    No! We will scold and shame!

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      The funny thing is they could easily do the old political trick and make false promises during election season. The Democrats did it all the time. Just lie that you’ll give people proper healthcare then shrug after the election. Just lie that you’ll prosecute the Wall Street plutocrats.

      But they don’t even want to pretend to be centre-left, they want to be Reagan democrats so fucking much they can’t even fucking pretend to be anything else.

      Vice President Kamala Harris has said in the current campaign that she supports raising the federal minimum wage. But her campaign hasn’t specified an exact figure.

      They could have made this the main message of their campaign, but it’s not even a bullshit promise at this point.

  • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Who you vote for is private but whether you vote is public.

    Ah shit. There’s going to be a leak of everyone who voted and who they voted for, isn’t there?

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    This won’t have the desired effect of making people vote. Instead more people will find a political reason for not voting and comfort in that reason.

    People will become absolutely fine with saying “neither of them represent my beliefs and I’m not ok with not voting based on that, deal with it”. This will be normalised. It will damage the civil religion considerably.

    This is a good thing. Do not stand in the way of their mistake.

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      People will become absolutely fine with saying “neither of them represent my beliefs and I’m not ok with not voting based on that, deal with it”

      I say that now and I get told that I’m trash, Trump is my fault, and so on and so on.

      Is this the antidote to the liberal “a 3rd party vote is a vote for Trump” math? The Anti-Vote equation?

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        You will say it after this and they will still call you trash.

        But many more people will also start saying it when challenged. And many more will be called trash. And many of them will just learn to be ok with that.

        This does not address the underlying reasons people are not voting, and therefore will not notably affect the issue. Instead it will create unintended consequences.

        Is this the antidote to the liberal “a 3rd party vote is a vote for Trump” math? The Anti-Vote equation?

        It might push some people to vote third party as the only option to not vote for one of the two parties they don’t like.

        Obviously the goal here is to make people vote for one of the two parties, but they have reasons for not doing that. If they’re absolutely forced to vote they still won’t pick the 2 parties.

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        Just tell those people some variation of this and when they then explain to you how it doesn’t work that way because you would have voted for the Dems if you didn’t vote 3rd party just tell you would never vote for the Dems. At this point their logic will become circular and the will short circuit and get mad

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    Haha, yeah, great question. I’m so glad you asked. I get this question a lot. There’s actually a really good reason I didn’t bother voting. See, I’m a communist. That means that I want public ownership of the productive forces of society. An easier way to think about it is that the finite resources of this Earth are used in pursuit of making 13 or 14 people incomprehensibly rich and we all toil away to-

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    Lmao why would you advertise this? There’s already a number of people who don’t register to vote to get out of jury duty, and now you’re telling them that their voting record can go public.

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    21 hours ago

    Now it is 1984
    Knock-knock at your front door
    It’s the suede denim secret police
    They have come for your uncool niece

    The punks got it right once again

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    If you’re doing data harvesting, Facebook snooping, skip-trace, w/e: voter rolls are right up there with tax records for publicly searchable information that lets you both verify the existence of a person and make more connections between datasets.

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      I actually came across a creepy campaign talking to my ol man yesterday. He was telling me he’s part of a postcard campaign to “get voters to the polls”

      I thought I’d anything it was voter intimidation. He was instructed to hand-write letters to a short list of people in NYC. There were 4 options of pre-made comments to leave, one of which was (iirc)

      'thank you for being a voter! who you vote for is private but whether you vote is public. Please vote this November 5 election"

      The other choices were a bit more innocuous but… Can you imagine being brown and getting handwritten no-return-address postcard from someone across the country who knows your name somehow?

      Fishy.

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        while taking care not to ruin their credit scores

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      That’s easy these days, I’m not voting for Trump 1000 times which means I’ve voted for Kamala 1000 times. I’m also not voting for her 1000 times, which kinda cancels the other 1000 votes out, but I just want everybody to have fun.