“We see it now: The hate has shifted to the trans community,” Walz said. “They see that as an opportunity. If you’re watching any sporting events right now, you see that Donald Trump’s closing arguments are to demonize a group of people for being who they are.”

“We’re out there trying to make the case that access to healthcare, a clean environment, manufacturing jobs, and keeping your local hospital open are what people are really concerned about,” he continued. “They’re running millions of dollars of ads demonizing folks who are just trying to live their lives.”

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      Now wait a minute, he may speak perfect English without the faintest trace of a French accent, but I’m doubting he was born and raised in France like Captain Picard and his brother and his brother’s family.

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    I’m honestly heartened to hear Waltz specfically voice support for trans folk. This is opposed to Harris who said she would follow the law in regards to my community, which sounds good but I need everyone to understand that it could be said by a governor in a southern state enforcing anti trans legislation. Waltz actually went the distance to say we should to be legally left alone. There is a stark difference between these two statements, even if I glad to hear both.

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      We’re just a few weeks away from the election. The candidates have two different but important roles.

      • Presidential candidate: keep the base in line while not alienating swing voters
      • VP candidate: say things that the presidential candidate can’t say

      As much as you may want Harris to say something like “We will defend the trans community,” it’s going to alienate swing voters.

      It makes no earthly sense the election is this close but it is. Kamala can’t afford a misstep but Tim can.

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        I completely understand that and I do not fault Harris for giving a precise diplomatic answer in the Fox interview on what some voters see as a sensitive issue. Which is difficult for me to even type because the concept of my existence is a “political issue” to some.

        However, I do take exception with it being characterized as “Harris announce support for trans community”, because that’s just not what she said. Which is why I am happy to hear Waltz clarify and go further.

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          Hey, I just wanted to tell you something cause it sounds like you might be in a bad place. Even with all of the political finger pointing surrounding your identity, you need to know something very important.

          Your life matters. Your experiences matter. Your feelings matter.

          You matter.

          Ignore all the hatred and all the fear. Ignore the bigotry and close mindedness. Ignore it all and know that there are so many people out there that will love you and support you and accept you.

          You are not alone.

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            We can’t ignore it when they’re constantly passing more and more draconian laws that make our lives infinitely harder all across the United States.

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              You’re correct. But i also said Ignore and not “do nothing”. It’s possible to ignore the hate while still fighting for your rights.

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          I hate to say it but everything is fucking political now. Yes it sucks that it’s tied to your identity but identity politics scores super easy points with conservatives because it’s so much easier to point out vs the massive wealth disparities between people like Musk and you and me.

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        Do you think swing voters might in fact be fucking morons? I’m so tired of the fate the world resting in the hands of low information people who seemingly command the memory and political acumen of the proverbial goldfish.

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          No fucking shit they’re morons. But you still need their votes to win. Democracy isn’t rule by the intelligent its rule by the people regardless of their intelligence

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          Oh no question. But even moron votes count (at least statistically speaking).

          So at this point, I fully expect Harris to run a much tighter ship than she has been and Trump to increase his very violent rhetoric.

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      He doesn’t get nearly as much press as Vance which is sad. He just seems like a nice guy and awesome Dad and for that alone I’d be glad to have him as VP.

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      I’m glad Harris framed it that way. It’s a position that’s easy to make into a rough sound bite. The goal is always to not make the election about trans people. Politicians harping on trans issues regardless of position do poorly. Call opposition to us a real freak show move and talk about how real Americans want the Midwestern values of all of us just getting along at our manufacturing jobs.

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    While still to the right of center of the political compass, I do really like how much closer to the center Walz is than the other and previous candidates.

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    I would crawl across barbed wire to vote Harris this year, but I think she’d happily backstab the trans community if she got republican votes in exchange.

    Walz seems like an actual mensch.

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      She defended trans people while on Fox in front of that republican audience. She shut down the line of anti-trans questioning fairly quickly

      She reaffirmed her commitment to following the law, which requires that transgender inmates receive medically necessary care, which includes gender affirming care. When pressed further, she pushed back, comparing Trump’s disproportionate spending on this issue to his lack of focus on the larger issues affecting the American people.

      https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/kamala-harris-shuts-down-fox-news

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        Everyone’s overlooking the fact that she legitimized gender-affirming healthcare as medically necessary on live tv. And refused to walk it back. She’s not really what I’d consider a true ally, but she did us a real solid there.

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        “I’m just gonna do what the law says, and btw he did it too” is not a defense of trans people. It’s minimizing the issue, which may be a wise sell towards actual Republicans, but it’s not an active defense of why you should be ok with trans people existing.

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      Walz walks the walk. MN is a sanctuary state for trans people in the Midwest. Age appropriate gender affirming care for minors is protected by law, and the state refuses to work with subpoenas about traveling for healthcare.

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          … The VP can’t overrule the president. They also cannot write laws. They do have a lot of things they can do though. Not sure what you think she was supposed to do that she hasn’t though, if it was about overruling past legislature, She can’t. You have to vote for Congress/senators for such.

          That’s on purpose… We were taught such in elementary school, middle school, and high school, but so many people seem to not remember anything.

          You don’t ask a judge to write a law, he’s in the wrong branch. Same with a VP.

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            In biden’s one and only press conference, he said that Harris agreed with every single policy of the administration and her input was crucial to him supporting anything.

            She’s also had a chance on the campaign trail to stray from his policies and she has not

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            The VP can’t overrule the president.

            She can differ from him on the campaign trail. She has chosen not to.

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      Walz promptly responded by discussing possible actions that he and Democratic presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris could take.

      He talked about antidiscrimination laws he wanted, judge appointment, helping education about LGBTQ related topics, etc


      Mind you that Walz got a lot of policies through to help trans and queer people in Minnesota with a single seat majority

      He also was a founding faculity advisor of a gay-straight alliance in the early 90s when it was very not socially acceptable at all. He supported same-sex marriage before it was legalized nationally when running in a deep red seat despite that not really netting him any political points there

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        The deep red seat can’t be understated. That part of Minnesota makes absofuckinglutely no sense in its political distribution. It’s got what, two or three college towns, the Mayo Clinic, and the rest is a mix of redneck “country types” and farmers.

        Super highly educated area, but not densely populated. Big ol bunch of religious types too.

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      What are Republicans offering for trans rights? For something so polarizing I’d argue that simply standing up for it is anything but a hollow platitude. Let’s normalize it

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        Oh man, they offer so much. They offer the opportunity to be called by your deadname for the rest of your life. They offer the opportunity to be use the wrong bathroom for the rest of your life. They offer to limit the sports that you can play. They offer the ability to prove you can stay ready and defensively yourself.

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          It was more a rhetorical question but I strongly believe Walz getting up there and saying something like “folks just trying to live their lives” isn’t hollow at all. Let’s all talk about how totally unobtrusive it all is, how it doesn’t affect thin-skinned little crybabies nearly as much as trying to mow a lawn at 5AM. Trans people affect bigots not at fucking all, if Pride is too much for these folk they need to quit showing up, right?