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Orwell was a colonial cop who later on kept a list of “crypto-communists” and “anti-white” personalities that he gave to the British gov. It’s come to a point where there are serious allegations he was an informant even during his time in Catalonia. That’s the kind of thing I mean by siding with the bourgeoisie. But I am not talking about the Spanish revolution, I am talking about you as an anarchist in this comment section, and more generally all anarchists I’ve met.
I appreciate that. I was simply pointing out that your articles are very poor: either no sources or very shaky sources. You could do a better propaganda job if you put your heart to it
What sources should we have decrying anarchism as what it really is? Any marxist analysis of anarchism will ultimately lead to that same conclusion, quoting someone about it would only be a formality. This backhanded compliment does not faze me or any of our editors; we are not here to appeal to anarchists, we are here as a proletarian encyclopedia. We are a handful of volunteer editors and do not have the means Wikipedia (which you seem to be fond of) has, nor do we claim to. Our recent changes page is filled with edits every day, we’ll get around to adding things to the article on anarchism when we get to it. Decrying it as imperfect and thus faulty does not solve anything; it is better to publish something viable than not publish at all.
Orwell was a colonial cop who later on kept a list of “crypto-communists” and “anti-white” personalities that he gave to the British gov.
I don’t know much about Orwell but he was a marxist not an anarchist so i don’t see the point.
But I am not talking about the Spanish revolution, I am talking about you as an anarchist in this comment section, and more generally all anarchists I’ve met.
Can you name one example in these comments where i’ve “sided with the bourgeoisie”? Or other anarchists for that matter? It’s funny to me because in the french political context the communist party is derided for being too lenient and siding with the bourgeoisie (the PCF is often working hand in hand with housing developers to gentrify neighborhoods, and as a whole they don’t promote abolition of private property anymore).
Any marxist analysis of anarchism will ultimately lead to that same conclusion, quoting someone about it would only be a formality.
So are you suggesting that anti-authoritarian marxism or libertarian communism does not exist? There’s plenty of those so why are you suggesting you have the only and ultimate truth?
we are not here to appeal to anarchists, we are here as a proletarian encyclopedia
Does that mean you can only get an account if you’re a unionized worker? Disclaimer: I wouldn’t fit in that category personally. I mean i don’t know about you but in my neighborhood/circles marxists are usually intellectuals from the universities while actual workers/proles tend to be of the “burn everything down” anarchist type who don’t care for leaders and nice words like they care for actual change. But maybe that’s because in France we have a much stronger history of anarcho-syndicalism with the CGT in early 20th century being the biggest union, all the while promoting sabotage, direct action and general strike.
Oh yes i read that one a few years back but it’s really far off from “the movement themselves have had to put out press releases and articles explaining to please stop calling them anarchist” (quote from you). It’s a piece asking western leftists to not try and fit zapatism into narrow categories including “anarchism and communism”, which would fail to capture the specificity of the struggle and would divide the movement on brand not practical concerns.
In that sense, i agree with that link: i personally don’t care if you’re a marxist or an anarchist (or whatever else really) as long as you are building power for the people, not “dictatorship of the proletariat” (or any other dictatorship really). That approach is common to the zapatistas who build/promote power from below no matter what your ideology/religion is, as the article argues.
Also worth noting: the article is an answer to an post saying we global north anarchists should not support zapatism because it doesn’t fit in a narrow understanding of anarchism. We could even say it does defend anarchist principles, or to quote the article:
In this light, revolutionary solidarity needs to take up the weapon of unflinching, merciless critique of all reformist, nationalist, hierarchical, authoritarian, democratic or class collaborationist tendencies that could undermine the autonomy and self-activity of those in struggle and channel the struggle into negotiation and compromise with the present order
Orwell was a colonial cop who later on kept a list of “crypto-communists” and “anti-white” personalities that he gave to the British gov. It’s come to a point where there are serious allegations he was an informant even during his time in Catalonia. That’s the kind of thing I mean by siding with the bourgeoisie. But I am not talking about the Spanish revolution, I am talking about you as an anarchist in this comment section, and more generally all anarchists I’ve met.
What sources should we have decrying anarchism as what it really is? Any marxist analysis of anarchism will ultimately lead to that same conclusion, quoting someone about it would only be a formality. This backhanded compliment does not faze me or any of our editors; we are not here to appeal to anarchists, we are here as a proletarian encyclopedia. We are a handful of volunteer editors and do not have the means Wikipedia (which you seem to be fond of) has, nor do we claim to. Our recent changes page is filled with edits every day, we’ll get around to adding things to the article on anarchism when we get to it. Decrying it as imperfect and thus faulty does not solve anything; it is better to publish something viable than not publish at all.
Here is the link you were interested in: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ejercito-zapatista-de-liberacion-nacional-a-zapatista-response-to-the-ezln-is-not-anarchist
I don’t know much about Orwell but he was a marxist not an anarchist so i don’t see the point.
Can you name one example in these comments where i’ve “sided with the bourgeoisie”? Or other anarchists for that matter? It’s funny to me because in the french political context the communist party is derided for being too lenient and siding with the bourgeoisie (the PCF is often working hand in hand with housing developers to gentrify neighborhoods, and as a whole they don’t promote abolition of private property anymore).
So are you suggesting that anti-authoritarian marxism or libertarian communism does not exist? There’s plenty of those so why are you suggesting you have the only and ultimate truth?
Does that mean you can only get an account if you’re a unionized worker? Disclaimer: I wouldn’t fit in that category personally. I mean i don’t know about you but in my neighborhood/circles marxists are usually intellectuals from the universities while actual workers/proles tend to be of the “burn everything down” anarchist type who don’t care for leaders and nice words like they care for actual change. But maybe that’s because in France we have a much stronger history of anarcho-syndicalism with the CGT in early 20th century being the biggest union, all the while promoting sabotage, direct action and general strike.
Oh yes i read that one a few years back but it’s really far off from “the movement themselves have had to put out press releases and articles explaining to please stop calling them anarchist” (quote from you). It’s a piece asking western leftists to not try and fit zapatism into narrow categories including “anarchism and communism”, which would fail to capture the specificity of the struggle and would divide the movement on brand not practical concerns.
In that sense, i agree with that link: i personally don’t care if you’re a marxist or an anarchist (or whatever else really) as long as you are building power for the people, not “dictatorship of the proletariat” (or any other dictatorship really). That approach is common to the zapatistas who build/promote power from below no matter what your ideology/religion is, as the article argues.
Also worth noting: the article is an answer to an post saying we global north anarchists should not support zapatism because it doesn’t fit in a narrow understanding of anarchism. We could even say it does defend anarchist principles, or to quote the article: