First of all, I want to say that it’s wonderful to see all of you here, and your critical support of the nation I proudly call home. But more and more recently, especially reading through Chinese internet too, there has been a sense of overconfidence and overglorification of China. It is honestly a little worrying at times for me, because as much as I love my homeland and is proud of what we are doing, I know full and well that we are still a long way to go. I see this sentiment of China being the glorious land far away as a bastion and utopia against Western Imperialism and while there’s a lot of truth behind that sentiment, and I definitely understand why one not living in China would choose to believe this (I live in the US now and I understand your pain, fellow US comrades). I just want to remind everyone to exercise dialectal materialism on this subject and try to look at China in a less idealised way. We cannot grow to be better without recognising our mistakes. Anyways that is my little message to you all. Have a nice day!
China does indeed do things for which it deserves criticism, for instance not going far enough with its climate goals, failing to completely bust the trafficking of endangered animals and plants, allowing 996 schemes to exists, and continuing to cooperate with rogue governments like the USA, Brazil, or Israel. It is by no means a perfect country, and though its current economic situation explains some of these unsavory policies, other problems still may be caused by neglect or blatant corruption. We do need to criticise China.
However, if you live or work in China, then it is your duty to do so, much more than it is ours. It is both a lot easier and more meaningful to call the kettle black if you don’t live in the pot.
I think the “cooperation” with rougue goverments like those you have showed are less about cooperation and more about the chinese neutral foreign policy, they try to be as neutral as possible in their relationships with other countries so the market stays stable and that diplomatic incidents are more rare. I know its anoying that the biggest AES country right now is so neutral in their foreign policies, but i think its better like this, China still is an developing country, they need all the foreign investment they can to grow fast. I hope that when China is able to be almost fully developed with an behemoth of an economy that will be much bigger then right now, then they will start having an more agressive posture. Lets hope that the chinese patience will pay off well in the end.
Is 996 still a thing in China? It’s my understanding that it was never legal and that businesses that do this get prosecuted. But I’m not Chinese so idk
996 schemes do still exist in China, where they are employed by at least 40 companies. Numerous scientists have denounced it as modern slavery and the People’s Court has declared it illegal in 2021, but as far as I know the government only has actually cracked down on a few cases, most notably fines against the Alibaba group in general and Jack Ma specifically.
Checking out Wikipedia’s Chinese sources, I see that they’re pretty unanimous in condemning the practice. Are there any Chinese comrades here that can speak about this? I have 0 trust in western media’s reports on this topic.
Banning 996 completely or not is a problem. According to the law, the salary of working twelve hours a day is twice that of working eight hours a day, last year in a region in Beijing local government completely banned 996, then its government received a lot of complaints. Many people 996 everyday to support their high consumptions but now they couldnt. But if voluntaral 996 is allowed, you know that China’s competition is fierce, so in fact there must be some people forced to 996 or they will be fired. When thinking of a problem we need to see the both sides.
Banning 996 completely or not is a problem. According to the law, the salary of working twelve hours a day is twice that of working eight hours a day, last year in a region in Beijing local government completely banned 996, then its government received a lot of complaints. Many people 996 everyday to support their high consumptions but now they couldnt. But if voluntaral 996 is allowed, you know that China’s competition is fierce, so in fact there must be some people forced to 996 or they will be fired. When thinking of a problem we need to see the both sides.
Banning 996 completely or not is a problem. According to the law, the salary of working twelve hours a day is twice that of working eight hours a day, last year in a region in Beijing local government completely banned 996, then its government received a lot of complaints. Many people 996 everyday to support their high consumptions but now they couldnt. But if voluntaral 996 is allowed, you know that China’s competition is fierce, so in fact there must be some people forced to 996 or they will be fired. When thinking of a problem we need to see the both sides.
I didn’t know that 12 hour days were allowed. Is that different from overtime?
Yep 12hours is overtime
Sheesh… Chinese workers better stand up for themselves before they become Japan 2
Banning 996 completely or not is a problem. According to the law, the salary of working twelve hours a day is twice that of working eight hours a day, last year in a region in Beijing local government completely banned 996, then its government received a lot of complaints. Many people 996 everyday to support their high consumptions but now they couldnt. But if voluntaral 996 is allowed, you know that China’s competition is fierce, so in fact there must be some people forced to 996 or they will be fired. When thinking of a problem we need to see the both sides.
Excuse me? Rogue governments?
When you have 20% of humanity to provide for you can’t just ignore huge masses of land, some of the largest food producers(USA and Brasil), for any reason whatsoever. Especially Brazil, China buys millions and millions of tons of food from us every year, do you propose both them and us to starve and get fucked just because our current president is shit? Do you support unilateral sanctions? Because that’s what they do.
We’re seeing it with Russia - you can’t just ignore a continent-size country. Regardless of regardless.
I’m not talking sanctions, I’m talking about simply not doing horrid shit like trading arms with the IDF or supporting Bolsonaro’s quest to eliminate the rainforest