• RicoBerto@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 hours ago

    I’ll just go ahead and copy a previous comment I made for this one, because as always a lot of people don’t feel like reading the article.

    "Painting was behind glass, the point is that in a climate change hellscape all this precious art is in danger. If all the people who read about a painting they’ve never heard of before get angry about “paint being thrown at it” they’ll really hate what’ll happen with extreme weather in a climate disaster. "

    These activists have some weird ideas sometimes, but this isn’t really one of them. If you read the article they all acknowledge that what they did they aren’t somehow entitled to do, and that they will probably go to jail for it as well. The entire point as with all protest is to shove it in the face of all the people that ignore this issue on a daily basis.

    Oil companies are doing the same thing to all precious art and nature and all the things you love, so where is the accountability for them?

    TL;DR these people are annoying, and that’s the fucking point.

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      5 hours ago

      I think people forget protests are supposed to be annoying. How else would you get attention? Asking nicely isn’t helping.

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      7 hours ago

      Maybe they’d let me beat the everliving shit out of them for their cause.

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        A man literally self-immolated to try to bring attention to our lack of effort to confront climate change. It was barely covered and you don’t seem to even know it happened. But you’re here fantasizing about violence because they threw some soup on a painting’s protective glass, so it seems like that’s actually working.

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          3 hours ago

          and you don’t seem to even know it happened

          When you pretend to be able to read my mind via the internet and then try to use that in order to justify your argument, I feel no compunction in immediately dismissing you— you’re clearly irrational and will do/say anything to further your agenda… just like these people who would destroy priceless works of art or light themselves aflame just for attention when alternatives are available and such methods have never been proven to be effective.

          Don’t blame me for my valid criticisms. Just find better ways to achieve your goals.

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            Your valid criticism is… to beat the shit out of them? I mean look, I’ve seen some bad criticism but that’s not even in the right basket.

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        4 hours ago

        Have fun being free Pinkertons for the Oil corps. Maybe you should direct your anger at them since they are the reason why these people are activists.

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          3 hours ago

          I’m not interested in this stupid cause. It’s not worth destroying a priceless piece of art just to draw attention to it.

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            Well the most priceless piece in our entire existence is about to be rendered unusable by our species. That kick your taint a little? Or do you just care about art that humans made as some sort of symbol of taste and intelligence?

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              “Climate change! Therefore I can commit crime! How dare you criticize me!”

              Your childish attempt to blame me for the actions of these vandals is preposterous.

              Find a better way to achieve your goals that doesn’t involve hypocritically destroying things of irreplaceable value.

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          No no, you see, it’s for THEIR cause. The beatings would be happening to raise awareness of climate change, not to support oil companies. Isn’t that the logic, here? There’s no other relevance of attempted vandalism of a painting by a man who died before climate change was even fully understood. The cause is all-important; the act just a detail to catch eyes, apparently.

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            4 hours ago

            I think the most important thing is to not bother a single soul while trying to take action about a serious global issue, just really stay out of everyone’s way if you want your point to stick in the minds of people. Its the only way to grab their attention.

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              I would guess that the vast majority of people who treasure art also care a great deal about climate change. So I’m not sure how getting their attention helps.

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                You’re reading this in a newspaper. It’s in no way limited to art enjoyers.

                Not that I have any idea why you think art enjoyers are particularly climate conscious. Or that their consciousness extends to actually doing anything rather than just thinking it would be nice if the environment was cleaner.

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                  The level of disdain you have for people who are already ideologically aligned with you is insane, especially considering that you believe that this kind of action, in addition, is just what is needed to win them over. Are we running on battered spouse rules or something?

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              I don’t give a fuck about bothering people. I give a fuck about the potential damage to pieces of human heritage. Take a sledgehammer, hit the streets, hell, hit the oil execs, I don’t give a fuck. But don’t damage artwork or artifacts that are generations old and widely recognized as important pieces of human culture.

              Like, fuck, when anti-colonial activists knifed that painting of some British twat a few months back, I was totally fine with it. Because it was:

              • A relevant British twat to colonization
              • A painting that wasn’t even that fucking old
              • A painting that was not widely recognized as a cultural treasure

              I wonder if they got off, come to think of it.

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                Pug my guy, all bets are off, every polluting industry is grinding billions to keep this cart on its current track. I’m sure if they could strike at oil execs they would, but have you tried to locate these people? Which mansion are they in at this time of year? Its not realistic. We’re burning alive right now. They need to garner mass attention now, and we’re all sitting here arguing over the efficacy of paint on paper instead of talking about the literal destruction of all life supporting habitats, not even just human. Its that serious.

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                I don’t give a fuck about bothering people. I give a fuck about the potential damage to pieces of human heritage.

                Ok, then why are you complaining. There was zero potential damage from this act.