• spujb@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    2085·
    5 months ago

    So important that the memes get on top of this story and double down on this specific hypocrisy. Optically, this tragedy is perfect for the RNC to the point it could almost be staged except for the glaring weak spot that Republicans believe that the person who did this had every right to own a firearm. The memes need to absolutely rail at that removed in the armor and pretty much nothing else, otherwise this is nothing more than gained footing for MAGA.

  • Responsabilidade@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
    9911·
    5 months ago

    Well, this event will definitely be exploited by Trump’s team and he will be strengthened. Just like happened with Bolsonaro and the stab.

    Unfortunately I think Trump will be reelected.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
      58·
      5 months ago

      Or we get a bunch of copycats.

      Biden gets shot. Trump gets shot.

      Future debate, Trump brags about how he got assassination attempts and Biden goes “No way Jose, I got assassination attempts too, bucko.”

      What a timeline.

        • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
          191·
          4 months ago

          We really should ignore all the election politics and make this all about gun control. Paint Trump as a victim of the Second Amendment. Make it a whole sob story about how our democracy is under attack by guns.

          • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish
            7·
            4 months ago

            Trump enacted some of the first gun control since the assault weapons ban. I’m pretty sure he said something like take their guns first then justify it latter during the summer of unrest.

            He’ll do whatever, he’s got the morals of an alley cat

  • notannpc@lemmy.world
    641·
    4 months ago

    Well now we know a three letter agency doesn’t want him dead. They at least hit their shots.

    • demizerone@lemmy.world
      51·
      4 months ago

      Malcolm X: Dead Martin Luther King: Dead John Kennedy: Dead Bob Kennedy: Dead Ronald Reagan: Lived Donald Trump: Lived

      I see a pattern.

      • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
        44·
        4 months ago

        Teddy Roosevelt: Shot. Told the crowd not to kill his assassin. Delivered his entire 50 minute speech, from start to finish.

        Schrank’s bullet lodged in Roosevelt’s chest after penetrating Roosevelt’s steel eyeglass case and passing through a 50 page thick (single-folded) copy of his speech titled “Progressive Cause Greater Than Any Individual”, which he was carrying in his jacket pocket.

        Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he was not coughing blood, the bullet had not reached his lung, and he declined suggestions to go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt. He spoke for 50 minutes before completing his speech and accepting medical attention. His opening comments to the gathered crowd were, “Ladies and gentlemen, I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Theodore_Roosevelt

        Trump: Injured by teleprompter. Claimed victory. Carried off stage.

        • get_the_reference_@midwest.socialEnglish
          10·
          4 months ago

          “It takes more than that to kill a bull moose,” the wounded candidate assured them. He reached into his coat pocket and pulled out a bullet-riddled, 50-page speech. Holding up his prepared remarks, which had two big holes blown through each page, Roosevelt continued. “Fortunately I had my manuscript, so you see I was going to make a long speech, and there is a bullet—there is where the bullet went through—and it probably saved me from it going into my heart. The bullet is in me now, so I cannot make a very long speech, but I will try my best.”

    • xantoxis@lemmy.world
      81·
      4 months ago

      Just because it wasn’t them doesn’t mean they don’t want him dead. Trump’s greedy blundering caused the deaths of a lot of US agents.

    • Warjac@lemmy.world
      272·
      4 months ago

      I’m honestly convinced in a very defeatist way that this will cement any uncertainty of his canadicty on the right and win him the election this year because of it.

      I can picture it now “Nobody ever tries to kill the bad guy, look at history MLK jr, Kennedy, Lincoln, Roosevelt and Hitl- history all looks upon the vile left and shames them for trying to engineer such things.”

    • CaptPretentious@lemmy.world
      16·
      4 months ago

      With how good he is at keeping secrets, I wouldn’t be surprised if in like 6 years it comes out that this was all planned.

    • Kairos@lemmy.today
      81·
      4 months ago

      I can’t tell you that because it wasn’t.

      Things are way less organized than you think.

    • Hammocks4All
      7·
      4 months ago

      In Brazil, during the 2018 election, Bolsonaro’s team got advice from Steve Bannon. Bolsonaro was stabbed during his campaign which many say hugely bolstered his numbers.

      Now this? I know Bannon is in prison but the whole Cambridge Analytica thing and the manipulation of public & individual opinion… the connections with Roger Stone… the whole QAnon crap… project 2025… it’s just all so fucking weird.

      • slickgoat@lemmy.world
        10·
        4 months ago

        The truth is more like it looks. No need for a conspiracy. Vile orange man who spews hatred and violence and preaches senseless retribution is shot at in a fascist rally in a country where guns are sacred.

        As I said, no need for a conspiracy, all the necessary ingredients are at hand.

        • Jumpingspiderman@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          4 months ago

          Exactly. With all the guns out there, and all the crazy people with guns, it was only a matter of time before this sort of thing happened. And unfortunately, it will happen again.

  • DogPeePoo@lemm.ee
    318·
    5 months ago

    “Fake news.”

    I wonder if he saved any of that ketchup for his post performance hamberder.

    • TheDannysaur@lemmy.world
      73·
      4 months ago

      This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.

      1. Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?

      2. “Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”

      3. Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?

      4. Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.

      5. Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.

      6. Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.

      There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.

      This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.

      Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.

      I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.

  • cmrn@lemmy.world
    10·
    4 months ago

    Wake up babe mods swept through and you can’t post opinions on Lemmy either

    • Smokeydope@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      4 months ago

      “Oh you can post opinions on Lemmy, just not THIS lemmy. Also whatever instances you are allowed to post your spicy opinions on are already defederated. huzzah for free speech (that’s not in my back yard!)”

  • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
    111·
    5 months ago

    Wasn’t there something about Trump bringing in more gun control measures than Obama? Something something bump stocks idk

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      9·
      4 months ago

      Obama passed a lot of smaller things. Trump just kinda saw that people were angry after the las vegas shooting and banned bump stops using an executive order (which was later overturned)