• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
    38·
    4 months ago

    It’s hilarious how he sounds more like Trump each and every day. I also notice they started painting him orange to make him look less like a corpse.

  • porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
    32·
    4 months ago

    Democracy is when god decides who will be president, who will be a billionaire, and who will die on the streets after medical bankruptcy

  • m5rki5n@lemmygrad.ml
    22·
    4 months ago

    Does the current president NEED to run after his term? If it’s not mandatory, then why the fuck dems thought it would be a good idea to put Biden in the forefront of the campaign. ANYONE could have gotten better chances especially with the lib mentality of “vote blue no matter who”. Are there really no other candidates available?

    • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      22·
      4 months ago

      In 2020 there were like a dozen candidates who represented the establishment, but none of them were doing well during the primaries so, in order to stop a possible Bernie nomination, they all dropped out (possibly due to Obama interfering directly) and the DNC coalesced around Biden as the pick. Harris was chosen as VP for the inverse of why Biden was Obama’s VP pick: a woman of color is good optics when compared to the racist cracker who was going to be president.

      Any dems with a national profile atm tend to be from the extremes of the party (Bernie or AOC vs Manchin or Pelosi etc), who are widely hated by large segments of the population and seen as non-viable. They haven’t elevated any of the candidates from 2020 to a higher profile either (Pete the Rat is secretary of transportation but that’s hardly a sexy post). This is why the like third place candidate on betting sites is Michelle Obama. The dems have consciously chosen to do nothing and have fucked themselves over in the process.

      • amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
        8·
        4 months ago

        I do wonder if the democratic party could produce much of anything viable at this point even with a concerted effort to do so. Biden seems to have largely gotten in on “he’s not Trump”. Bernie might have been a real shot at a milquetoast reformist, but even without the capitalists doing everything they could to stop him, the anti-anything-remotely-socialist-sounding rhetoric in the US is strong. And if we look at how pathetic Bernie’s takes on the genocide against Palestine have been, who’s to say he wouldn’t have been funding it just like Biden is, but with slightly different rhetoric and so receiving much the same criticism Biden is.

        Trump on the other hand, is willing to say he wants to do something drastically different. In practice, I’m not sure even he has any real intention of consolidating a new christo-fascist order, but he is at least willing to play the part of wanting to and that prolongs the belief for a little longer that the shambling burger empire can be changed significantly through voting.

        I could see it being plausible that the capitalists would throw their support behind a Trump kind of figure getting rid of the facade of democracy because of not having much else of direction to go with it. How many times can they do the same Charlie Brown / Lucy Football maneuver while conditions continue to deteriorate for most USians before a critical mass of people go, “Yeah, this stuff is a bunch of BS and we’re not going to feed into the facade anymore.” The anything-but-Trump panic pushed by liberals seems to center on this idea that there is in fact a functional “democracy” and that Trump is going to destroy it, but nowhere in this panic do liberals explain why their candidates are so incredibly bad that a guy like Trump is viable in the first place.

        It’s bizarre watching them effectively tell people “we are one of the worst things there is in your universe, but vote for us anyway.” And I’m not sure it’s tactical ineptitude or neglect, so much as it is having reached the limits of pretending to care without meaningfully doing anything for regular people while in office. Obama did nothing to shake up anything while putting on a show like he was the kind of person who would. Biden has done nothing to shake up anything while the media acts like he’s FDR. Liberals can pull out a list of minor stuff they’ve done, but none of it addresses the fundamentals and it’s the fundamentals that leaves people open to a guy like Trump to come in and say, “I’m not going to legitimize how ridiculous and humiliating this system is.” Of course, he’s perfectly capable of legitimizing it anyway, while pretending not to, and I think that’s much of what he did when he was in office before. But then there is the following he has who doesn’t see it that way and they may push him to challenge the fundamentals more than he actually wants to himself. Shaking things up wouldn’t exactly be a cozy thing to attempt. He’d be taking a lot of risk that the existing fascist forces of neoliberalism rally against him and make the remains of his life more painful, and I don’t think his heart is really in it on the beliefs.

        • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          5·
          4 months ago

          Oh, the dems definitely can’t. Their whole thing is a continued erosion of quality of life for the general populace, while occasionally being physically dragged kicking and screaming into passing some meaningful social legislation (gay marriage and the like). But people still like Obama despite being an empty suit whose job was to ruin their lives because he played the role well. The fact that they can’t even do that anymore is quite worrisome.

          Agreed that Trump doesn’t really want to do anything because he’s a lazy fool. The real concern imo will be the guy who comes after Trump who is an ideologically committed fascist who is able to capitalize on the shift in the overton window. The dems will do nothing to oppose this, as you pointed out.

    • USSR Enjoyer@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      17·
      4 months ago

      They don’t need to run. They don’t need to win. They don’t care about anyone’s loss of rights. They’re the heralds of fascism just as much as the other party. It’s all identity politics. Trump winning means maximum fundraising. In that way, he’s actually a gift to the democratic party. If Biden lives long enough and wins, they will immediately cast the shadow of Trump over the next election as the next existential threat and money will flow again into the party coffers from pearl-clutching liberal donors. When Trump dies, they will have to prop up some “New Trump” since they aren’t going actually undermine capital to create better conditions. idpol is the only thing the democratic party ever does in US “elections”.

  • albadellanotte@lemmygrad.ml
    14·
    4 months ago

    Seeing how he looks everyday more like a zombie god may call him up soon.

    As a non-American I was wondering what happens if he dies let’s say 1 week before the vote. Kamala becomes president and also the candidate?

    • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
      1·
      4 months ago

      From my understanding, yes she would be sworn in and function until the next candidate was elected.

      As she is the current VP candidate, I believe she would just get bumped up to the presidential candidate and they’d need to decide a new VP.

      Now what I am not quite sure of is what would happen if he died mid-election after people have already voted for him. Would they do another run of ballots? It ultimately wouldn’t matter much, but I would be curious what the mechanics would be.

  • ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml
    13·
    4 months ago

    2008 Democratic election campaign: yes we can! 2024 Democratic election campaign: you can’t stop me! No one can stop me! Only God can stop me now!