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Fascism continues to sweep the world. Apparently loads of people find it really appealing.
Is populism a part of fascism? Seems like populists tend to be popular during rough times. They give you an “other” to blame, so it’s not your fault.
Populism is just democracy. Liberals love to use this term to discredit the will of the masses because they don’t believe in actual democracy.
If there was a Venn diagram, populism and nationalism and fascism all overlap beautifully.
I worry for my kids. I’m doing the best I can to keep the anger out of their hearts but Jesus Christ the world is so angry right now and they don’t know where to put it.
Rough times ahead and strongly recommend everyone keep those you care about close.
So using your galaxy brain logic, populist movements like MAS in Bolivia are fascist?
Do you even math bro? Look up Venn Diagram examples.
Bro, English is not math, and your statement is not a diagram, so people are left to interpret the meaning of it. If you weren’t trying to imply that populism and fascism are closely related when you said they overlap beautifully, then why bring it up at all?
https://www.cuemath.com/algebra/venn-diagram/
Look at the example. See how in a Venn diagram they overlap?
I brought it up because the 3 overlap pretty consistently. If you have a rabid nationalistic, fascist or populist movement chances are it has symptoms of the other 2.
That is not to say that rampant nationalism means fascist. Populism doesn’t mean fascism to your example.
I can’t believe I have to explain this to someone but here we are.
I know how Venn diagrams work buddy. I’m pointing out the lack of logic in your argument. Populism and nationalism don’t have much to do with fascism which is a product of liberalism and capitalism. There are plenty of examples where nationalism and populism result in socialist movements, Viet Cong being one prominent example.
This is to say that you don’t actually understand the cause of fascism and its relationship with populism and nationalism.
I can’t believe I have to explain this to someone but here we are.
France, have you lost your minds?
Macron sure did, but I can’t talk for the rest of the population.
Yeah french presidents have been able to get elected in those “best of two” presidential elections (you vote twice, the second round is the top two from the first, so very easy to manipulate) by helping the far right getting into the second place (started with Chirac or even earlier) so you only have one reasonable choice (Democracy vs not).
People got fed up with it, got numb to it, and also the far right have become more of a populistic party too (on the outside at least).
It doesn’t help Macron seems to believe he’s some sort of rightful heir after those shenanigans too and just brutally impose what he wants without taking into account what the people want (there have been massive strikes and protests, even by french standards, to absolutely no avail).
Sigh.
so you only have one reasonable choice (Democracy vs not).
If it comes to that choice, it’s already not a democracy, especially if that is the election tactics from liberals/centrist/moderates/whateverelsethefashenablerscallthemselves.
If it’s a nation state, it’s already not a democracy.
The idea that choosing which particular rich people sit in a fancy building is somehow democracy is quite funny.
Two years ago when the war started, I predicted that Europe will slide into fascism due to economic problems caused by the proxy war with Russia. People like @poVoq@slrpnk.net dismissed and ridiculed me, claiming I had no clue what I was talking about and I didn’t understand anything about Europe. Turns out I was right all along.
You still don’t have a clue, but I am tired of trying to argue with obvious bad-faith Russian trolls like you.
Everything I said would happen is happening, but you naturally lack the decency to admit that. Libs smearing everyone who points out the basic facts of the situation as Russian trolls is only getting more hilarious by the day.
Two years ago I said: independent of the war with Russia, Europe will fall into fascism one way or another. Everything I said has come true.
Late stage capitalism ultimately devolved into fascism, so I agree that the direction of travel would’ve been the same. The war simply acted as a catalyst that accelerated the process.
Sure, I can agree with that. Covid had a similar effect.
yup
So what do you think is happening with Italy, Germany, and France all having their far-right parties ascending in national government?
