• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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    Yes, it’s a virtual server that you can get from a provider like Digital Ocean. It’s not running on your machine locally, it’s the same thing that the admins of Mastodon instances have to do to run Mastodon servers.

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      Huh I thought the servers were real and ran on bare metal of volunteers like it’s supposed to be

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            Nope, everyone blindly trusts AWS/Crimeflare/etc. to MITM all their traffic, storage and servers and never happen to do anything bad or leak any data. One day it’s going to bite everyone in the ass.

            Even when you use AWS’s encryption feature for the VM itself, they hold the keys for you.

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            It’s really up to you how you set up your server and the datastore. This has nothing to do with Hollo. Again, there’s no difference between this and running a Mastodon server that will also need infrastructure like a db to back it.

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              Hmm sounds very unsafe to me. The cloud server provider can do anything, including logging all the traffic and sending it to the NSA for criminal finding and analysis purposes. Well I heard it’s almost impossible to get data deleted from Mastodon so whatever.

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                I don’t know what to tell you, but this is how modern internet works. Also, nobody is forcing you to get a server in a jurisdiction where US has access to. Meanwhile, any traffic is encrypted via HTTPS, so the provider can’t actually log it. It sounds like you have a very superficial understanding of the subject you’re debating here.

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                  This is an unpopular take because laziness, lack of quality and lack of care are the standards now but “this is how modern internet works” isn’t an excuse at all. That’s what FOSS is trying to change actually. But I guess the Fediverse is far behind in terms of security now. Not having everything encrypted on a server you don’t own is a massive flaw. Privacy as in data mining seems to be a bit better than what Big Tech offers as long as you trust the instance and its server provider though.

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                    This has nothing to do with the original topic of discussion or Hollo in particular. You’re now arguing about pros and cons of using a VPS service. I also have no idea why you keep making statements like “not having everything encrypted on a server you don’t own is a massive flaw”. You absolutely can have everything encrypted running a VPS. You don’t understand the subject you’re discussing.