The sentiment in Washington before the Moscow attack was that Russians needed to experience firsthand the impact of the war in Ukraine. This attitude intensified as US sanctions proved ineffective, Russian advancements in Ukraine quickened, and President Putin received a high level of support from the Russian population during recent elections.

Previous attempts to make Russians understand the war’s effects included drone strikes on major city centers, attacks on infrastructure, and efforts to destabilize Russia’s economy.

https://www.csis.org/people/emily-harding

  • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    “ISIS” doesn’t really make me think of anything Russo-Ukraine War. I feel like it should make intuitive sense to Russians that this is just US-sponsored terrorism. Is there any information about the background of the perpetrators available yet? I am curious whether they were Levantine, Central Asian, Chechen or from somewhere else in Russia. Just wondering how far CIA had to go to assemble this death squad.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      They managed to take all of them alive it seems, so I’m sure we’ll be finding out a lot of details in the coming weeks. Incidentally, the fact that they tried to flee also strongly suggests against the ISIS theory given that when they do terror attacks it’s a one way trip.

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        2 months ago

        when they do terror attacks it’s a one way trip

        Would that really be the case though, or is it perhaps more that most people don’t bother trying to apprehend them? When those guys back in France managed to kill Charlie Hebdo, they also tried to make a run for it. The guys who conducted the Boston marathon bombing (who I think I also recall hearing they swore allegiance to ISIS? Not sure though) also tried to make a getaway. I don’t know anything about Russian police tactics, but it could be they’re more likely to try and apprehend mass murderers alive when possible.

        Besides which, if they survive they get to conduct more terror attacks. I don’t think whoever’s responsible for this attack counted on them being apprehended.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          16
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          More often than not, they see themselves as martyrs, but you’re right it doesn’t conclusively prove they’re not ISIS on its own.

        • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          The guys who conducted the Boston marathon bombing (who I think I also recall hearing they swore allegiance to ISIS? Not sure though

          wikipedia (i know, i know) has this to say:

          “During questioning, Dzhokhar said that he and his brother were motivated by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, that they were self-radicalized and unconnected to any outside terrorist groups, and that he was following his brother’s lead.”

    • Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      2 months ago

      Disclaimer: I haven’t followed this particular story very closely.

      ISIS-K and American Intel have connections to say the least. It’s plausible that a terrorist attack claimed by ISIS-K is also a CIA thing. I would not be surprised to find that some of the people there trained in Syria/Iraq and were active in Afghanistan. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a mix of people with similar backgrounds but different nationalities cobbled together for this relatively recently.

      This is all speculation on my part of course. Just saying what wouldn’t surprise me.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Has individual acts of terror upon a population ever done anything but radicalize a population against the perceived threat?

    Like even in a practical point of view this is some truly fucking dumb shit from this CIA freak, I can tell why shes a former operative if this is the quality of her work.

  • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    galaxy-brain

    If you do enough terrorism the people you target will eventually realise that you’re the good guy and that their own leaders attempting to prevent the terrorism committed against them are the baddies!

  • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    2 months ago

    …like didn’t 9/11 generate an islamophobic and jingoistic backlash towards the rest of the world and immigrants. You are telling me, that Ukranian terrorist attacks are going to cause the opposite reaction in Russian citizens? I know it’s all bullshit and they are all demons looking to inflict as much pain and chaos as possible; but at least lie to me better.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 months ago

      Right, I just can’t see any logic in this besides malice for the sake of malice.