• zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    When your only response is “this doesn’t matter” you have just accepted defeat rhetorically and want to move on to something else.

    If it “doesn’t matter” so much just add the damn flag (or remove the other burning flags) so it stops being a constant struggle session of bad pseudo-zionist arguments to defend mod hypocrisy.

    Not having the emoji is a minor grievance, but the users justifying it are the big problem - they are just spouting Zionist narratives about how we need to defer everything to Jewish Feelings and other principles and consistency doesn’t matter. Their folding in one place is symbolic of their folding to that narrative overall.

    It’s a bigger issue overall for me because the implication of actively continuing to exclude it is that the official position of this forum is that Ansarallah, Hezbollah and the Palestinian resistance are anti-Semitic for burning Israel flags. They aren’t. It is the mods who are wrong, not the axis of resistance.

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      Holy shit go outside. I didn’t even ping you. What are you doing, sitting around refreshing this thread looking for people to argue with?

      Having the option for a burning star of David emoji risks making nazis feel comfortable posting on this website. Avoiding nazis feeling comfortable on your website is the first job of internet moderators. This is not a problem for the Palestinian resistance, who are not trying to run a website, are not in danger of nazis feeling comfortable on their website, and have bigger problems to deal with than nazis feeling comfortable on their website.

      Elsewhere in this thread, you tried to say ukkk should be disallowed under the same logic, because the cross is also a religious symbol. This is an absurd false equivalence - Christians are not under threat, Jews are. This is the same rhetoric that people use when trying to say racism against whites is a problem.

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        Having the option for a burning star of David emoji risks making nazis feel comfortable posting on this website

        jesse-wtf yeah the nazis are going to feel comfortable on hexbear. absolutely. you got a very convincing case there

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          we have historically had very reactionary people post here for long periods of time before a struggle session revealed the one thing they couldn’t get over not being able to say/do

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        risks making nazis feel comfortable posting on this website.

        This is argument doesn’t make sense to me. We frequently call for fascists, and people who hold some of the beliefs nazis do (racists, transphobes, etc) to be killed. We support the exact opposite countries they do. We have mandatory pronoun tags ffs.

        We already say death to Israel and death to zionists. If nazis misinterpreted that as being against Jewish people (and ignored everything else we post), they’d already be here.

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        Lmao are Nazis going to show up at Ansarallah rallies too because the burning Zionist rag makes them feel welcome? This is just pure stupidity and you are echoing Zionist arguments. Your “go outside” and “logout” and “touch grass” shit isn’t an argument it’s an admission that you know you are wrong and repeating Alan Dershowitz’s argument on why we can’t say “from the river to sea”. You don’t want to make the full throated argument that burning Zionist rags are anti-Semitic because you know you will sound like CNN so you resort to this petty meta-insulting