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      I can assure China needs Intel a lot less than they need China, they are starting to produce their processors and it won’t be long until they start getting mass produced in the mainland.

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          Yeah, that plus the fact they want to ditch Windows for state workers’ computers make me think they want to start getting independence in terms of hardware and software.

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    US chip maker Intel apologised to Chinese customers, partners and the public after a letter telling its suppliers not to source products or labour from the western region of Xinjiang caused a backlash

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    They need to hurry the fuck up and build in US and EU. They are almost a fully automated plant, and they don’t need to rely on China’s cheap labor, which is no longer cheap anyway

    Plus the host of garbage you have to deal with when you do business with communist bastards. Not a good PR look

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        This is a wolfballs news thread. We typically lean more libertarian, anarchist capitalist than socialist here.

        I don’t ban opinions though.

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        Ah, are you offended because I hate commies ? Shame, I don’t give a fuck. I live in an ex-communist country and we don’t fuck around with that kind of garbage ideas.

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          This comment was reported but broke no rules. Hatred of Governments agents including Communist ones is not against our rules. He is sharing his personal truth about living in a country that experienced a form of communism and he is unhappy with it. Banning this comment would be removing half the conversation and wolfballs exist exactly to stop that sort of thing. People can block users by clicking the three dots.

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            I think entire wolfballs should be banned… or turned into an actual furry community without the racist under/overtones.

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      Most of the “China forces X to apologize” stuff for the past 4 or 5 years hasn’t been about sourcing “cheap Chinese labor”. That hasn’t been the case for a long time. When some movie or another needs to appease China, it’s not that they need Chinese actors or Chinese post-production specialists.

      It’s that they want Chinese audiences. When an NBA basketball player kowtows, it’s that the NBA wants Chinese audiences. Intel wants Chinese customers. They simply outnumber US customers, or European customers.

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        Yes, sorry. You are correct. What I said was true long ago. Now, its access to the Chinese market that is the carrot.

        At the same time though, most western companies like Uber, Google, Facebook got kicked out of China, and the Chinese stole their tech and made their own knockoffs.

        I think this garbage trend of Chinese censorship may start to fade away, when Chinese companies are the ones operating abroad and get screwed over, e.g Huawei and DJI

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          the Chinese stole their tech and made their own knockoffs.

          What “tech” is there to steal from the companies you mentioned? Which do the chinese clones use?

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            Huawei and DJI ? Not sure. I stopped following Huawei some years back, when I found out they were just a CCP puppet.

            I meant general industrial espionage. There were massive phishing campaigns starting maybe 10 years ago. The PLA Unit 61398 is rather infamous.

            They stole everything from the trains they use in the country (stolen from Siemens) to their new fighter Jets. Its a fascinating way for a third world country to catch up to far more developed nations.

            Still, they kind of shot themselves in the foot, because it opens up their companies to lawsuits and what not, should they try to operate in western markets.

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      I agree with you but I assume it is also the case that the Chinese make up a loyal consumer base.

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        Loyal enough that Intel is willing to look the other way when it comes to genocide and concentration camps

        Fuck that. Its seriously disgusting that the whole planet has not placed sanctions on China for this.

        Yet all western govts arrogantly claim that they are against Nazis/far right, bla. Shows you the whole thing is just theater.

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          Well said.

          It is also amazing that they can maintain these double standards.

          Iran is a country that does not exploit people half as badly as China does, but it is like pulling teeth to get the sanctions removed from it. China is begging for comprehensive international sanctions, and nobody will do it because they care about the money.

          That is all you have to know about the principled Western “democracies.”

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            Iran is easier to bully. They are tiny compared to China.

            ol boy Trump did one good thing in kicking out Huawei and laying the smack on Uncle Xi. Shame the current guy is senile and spineless

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              This is fully right – the US is only interested in enforcing some agenda when they do not take a hit from it.

              Iran has made the blunder of refusing to say ‘uncle!’ over Israel.

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                Actually, the bigger, more intense war is between the Arabs and Iran. Sunni/Shia conflict is more divisive than their hate of Israel.

                From what I understand, Iran had a western puppet regime, the “Shah”, just like many other countries, Egypt, Iraq etc. The people revolted, and now you have the Ayatolla

                Ever since the revolution, there has been various fights with the West… Iran is just really unlucky, that the US wanted to fuck with them.

                The US tried the same shenanigans with bigger countries, like India, they sent an Aircraft carrier to threaten it before it had an air force, as well as sanctions for testing nukes.

                But, India was too big to control. Iran is 1/15 the size.

                That’s all the US has done since Vietnam - picked fights with small countries, since they really can’t win bigger invasions. Colonisation always fails… who would have guessed.