Is wayland ready for gaming with nivida RTX series? I have RTX 3060 Ti. I wouldn’t mind messing with it to make it work if I have to.
Would want to use a window manager like sway or river.
As an AMD user on Wayland who primarily uses Steam/Proton, I haven’t had any Wayland-related issues with gaming at all. This isn’t surprising, since the compositor used by Steam Deck (Gamescope) is also Wayland-based.
FYI: If you ever do have compositor-related issues (X11 OR Wayland), you can almost always fix the issue by running the game in a nested Gamescope instance by editing the game’s launch command.
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With recent drivers and recent enough DEs it is usable to a certain extent. There are some known issues documented in the release notes of each version. Here’s for 535. TL; DR the major blockers are: (1) Variable Refresh Rate doesn’t work for some older cards; (2) GAMMA_LUT is not implemented (no night light) and (3) Nested X11 clients have synchronisation issues that might result in some flickering or dupicate frames, it’s more noticeable on things that refresh slowly, although much better recently. Also (4) NvFBC capture doesn’t work for X11 applications within a Wayland session which might or might not be important for some people.
I’m using it with Plasma; it’s OK, no major concerns but my setup is pretty basic.
545 will have better wayland support. For now X11 is a better choice i guess. (i don’t own an nvidia gpu)
I hope 545 brings GAMMA_LUT support, night light is basically the only thing keeping me away from Wayland at the moment on my desktop. I absolutely love Wayland with my laptop
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Nvidia or not, stick with X11 until you have a reason to use Wayland.
I need Wayland for my packaging work, and one of my devices requires Wayland so I use it for that and it’s a decent experience, but Wayland still has drawbacks (weaker automation API, some programs still don’t work) so I wouldn’t recommend switching off X11 unless you have a reason.
The only reason I have is the weak security model of X, and maybe early-adopters syndrome
Yeah I agree. People are fast to jump on the bandwagon but there are still plenty of steps to be made to get it even on par with X11. Ofc if it works for you that’s great but it doesn’t work for everyone.
Last I looked it still wasn’t working well enough, so I decided to stick with Xorg. But that was a few months ago.
I would personally stick with X11 for now. Last time I tried Wayland it worked but all sorts of just strange issues started popping up everywhere. Nothing big but annoying and frustrating to fix. This was using KDE Plasma.
Depending on your desktop environment, it might actually be very easy and safe to test by yourself. I am using KDE Plasma, and after installing wayland (I installed the plasma-wayland-session package on Arch), I am able to select wayland instead of X11 just before logging to my session. In my case it’s completely broken though, I have a lot of freezes, glitches, etc. that make wayland completely unusable and I have the same graphic card as you. However, because it is as easy to switch back to X11 as to select X11 in the dropbox before logging to my session, it is not a big deal.
It works fine (runs with minor graphical gliches) for me but i have heard that its a complete mess for others. I’d recommend checking how well your particular system works.
If it works well then it might be a good idea to switch since wayland does have some pros comared to X11.
Driver 530 was extremely busted with high refresh rate monitors, crashed immediately on login for GNOME on Wayland and X. I got 528 to work stably using nomodeset to get in temporarily.
I haven’t had issues with games and Wayland, but I’m sticking with Xorg for now because KDE Plasma and the tiling window managing plugin I use still behave erratically. I often see visual bugs in the compositor overall, and the fact that apps die if we need to restart it is a deal breaker to me. Maybe these are related to Nvidia, but as far as gaming goes, I haven’t noticed much of a difference.
I have the same card and, like others, I haven’t had gaming-related issues with Wayland. Can’t really speak to a performance difference between Wayland and X11 for the games I play, seems comparable to me.
The only reason I switched to Wayland was because I use 2 displays, one 4K and the other 1440p, and I wanted fractional scaling. X11 can do this with workarounds, but the same scale factor gets applied across all displays. I wanted a different scale factor for each display, and it seemed like there was no way to make this work (in my case at least…it’s very possible I was doing something wrong).
But Wayland fixed the issue for me so ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I would’ve kept using X11 if not for that special case
Gnome and Wayland works very well, with amd or Nvidia. If you’re a kde user you may run into more issues.
One thing to note with sway and other wlroots based compositors - tearing is not a merged feature in wlroots, so you get pretty much always-on vsync, which means increased input lag which can matter in games like Osu.
Eh idk I just use X11
@cyclohexane Depends on what DE or WM you’re using, kde and gnome are very usable right now but still have some issues, but sway? That one the sway dev will personally assault you if you try to use nvidia with it lol
