By most estimates it seems that more than 50,000 Ukrainian troops have died in this city alone over the past 8 months. One year ago in history on this date, Mariupol, the birthplace of Azov Nazism, was liberated as well. @shrike502@Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml it seems that Prigozhin’s random diatribes about “running out of ammo” turned out to be some wild psyop after all, I wonder what was happening

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    If the announcement of the partial mobilization was the end of the beginning, the liberation of Artemovsk might just be the beginning of the end. I guess that the fabled ukrainian offensive will come in the next days/weeks and a desperate attempt to recapture the city might take place.

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      The offensive has already started, they’ve taken a few fields some miles away from Bakhmut and are now being fiercely contested. Months-long buildup of the $200 Billion NATO Tacticool army and all they do is charge straight into artillery.

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        The offensive has already started

        We don’t know that. There were attacks on the flanks of Bakhmut, but we don’t really know the scope and objective of these attacks. They could’ve been to create some space along the roads to enable the remaining garrison to pull out, but from what we know these were tactical in scope, not strategic - which an offensive is.

        Maybe it really was all the gas that was left in the UAF, but with our armchair general information I feel like that’s not an assessment we can make with confidence.

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          but we don’t really know the scope and objective of these attacks.

          As with all modern war, the scope is decided after the results are apparent

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            It’s a serious flaw in many progressive politicians. They’ll argue against doing new bad things, but they kind of take it for granted that bad things that already happened have happened and there’s not much they can do about it.

            Do you have any links about Benn on NI? Or is it more of a conspicuous silence?

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              I’m going to have to retract what I wrote. He was part of a labour cabinet that sent troops to NI. He later changed his mind on that. But he did want UN troops in NI instead.

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                Ah, that does fit what little I know about him a bit better.

                Doesn’t change the overall truth for other ‘progressive’ politicians, so I sympathise with the expectation that they’re all the same.