it does say that theres only 20 in the label, but im more pissed about the waste. everything couldve been put on 3 trays
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The only time I’ve seen something like this is when my doctor really wanted me to try an anti-depressant, so he gave me a perpetual supply of free samples.
Don’t antidepressants take weeks to start working?
Yes and no, also i am not a medical professional.
For classical antidepressants Chemicals tend to function pretty fast but the effect is designed to be subtle because you need to live a normal life, capable of dealing with and feeling both ups and downs. not be perpetually smiling or brain dead.
After some time “a few weeks” of taking a daily dose your body and mind adjust to the subtle changes causing a stable therapeutic effect. At least thats what I understand is the idea.
But lately there is also sm of a psychedelic renaissance of medicine and they work entirely different where a single dose within a therapeutic setting creates a longer lasting feeling of increased well being.
Nasal Ketamine seems to receive allot of attention, near instantly improving the condition. They tend to need 1 dose every 5 weeks so its less addictive then classic medicine. But i do admit it instant improvement for treatment resistant medications is a bold claim and still subject of more research.
The side effects can last for weeks. It’s like a really shitty onboarding process. For some, the side effects are not bad. Personally I can say that the first 2 to 4 weeks are usually filled with nausea, extreme fatigue and exhaustion.
The way that these sorts of meds have been described to me is that “they give you a leg up”, meaning it gives you just enough of a “boost” that you might actually follow through on therapy and the strategies it offers.
It has been years now, and still no luck. I’d love to live a normal life, whatever the fuck that means lol
It depends on what you mean by “start working.” The first time I took a sertraline, I felt absolutely baked, but I feel like it took weeks for the desirable effects to take hold.
Then again, my doctor also told me that something like 60% of the effects are a placebo.
Regardless, yes, he would give me like a month of these individal samples at a time. I’m not sure how he swung that. It was like 2003 or 2004.
Why not put them all in one little baggy? That’s how I buy my pills from Rick.
They could even be packaged more efficiently as a powder.
I buy antibiotics from this guy downtown, who has cut out so much waste by providing it in powder form. I now I’m not supposed to, but I take it everyday with a nasal inhaler. I’ve never felt better and have great ideas of grandeur for hours each morning!
Package it like whey protein. In a giant 2 gallon tub with a scoop.
There are many reasons these may be pacakaged this way: from lowering the possibility of accidentally taking the wrong pill to anti-theft.
It would be cheaper for the manufacturer to just put them all in a bottle, so rest assured they wouldn’t do this if the benefits didn’t outweigh the costs.
There’s been a shift away from putting pills in bottles.
IIRC it was pioneered by the NHS (UK), because they found that the mild inconvenience and time of popping out the pills one by one, in comparison to the ease and speed of downing a whole bottle of them, cut down on people attempting suicide by overdose by a surprising amount.
That’s… Actually pretty genius. When I’m depressed I don’t have the mental energy to do that.
That’s how governments work. Not a single penny spent on making life more worth living, but methods of making suicide somewhat less convenient hits industrial scale production.
This is such a cynical take. NHS finds a simple change to save lives and you spun it bash on the idea of government.
Adding that certain markets won’t accept bottles, you must use a blister.
Why is it one per card, bit of a head scratcher, but given the logistics and distribution costs of shipping this format, agree they wouldn’t do this for fun.
Because one pill is probably the recommended dosage for that medication.
I’m willing to believe there’s a reason to have them separated but why would they use such a large packaging for it?
blistering machines used in the pharmaceutical industry usually work with some standard sizes, hence the size of the blister. change parts also cost a small fortune, so it makes no sense to have them tailored for just one product if it works well enough with existing equipment. thay being said, a couple of things below in reply to the whole thread, not just yourself.
to add to the list of reasons one would want them individually packaged, it’s easier to dispense a set amount of pills in this manner, for medicine that needs to be tailored for each user more often (think if you need 5 capsules, you’d get a blister that is weirdly cut by the pharmacist with a pair of scissors - cutting the blister also removes important information like lot number and expiry date). also, it could have some stability issues outside of the blister, so dispensing them naked in bottles might not be the best thing.
for antibiotics and such, it’s also crucial to take each and every dose prescribed so dropping one in the sink accidentally when you’re shaking a bottle is something you’re trying to prevent. the size of the blister would also make it harder to lose around the house or one’s backpack/bag/purse/saddlebags/bag of holding and then not taking your last dose (in addition to the change parts thing mentioned at the start).
individually wrapped bananas are a waste. for critical things like pharmaceuticals, there is more likely than not a good reason for this. look up pharmacovigilance if curious to know more.
Here’s the comment I was looking for! I was going to suggest this might be the issue. (total guess), but it made sense when I saw its the standard size of other blister packs you get.
I also heard that the reason heinz tins dont stack well whilst other brands do is because of how expensive it would be to replace the machines (or parts of the machines) that make the can lids and bases.
So it was a fair assumption that it’s basically the same problem here.
Especially when you consider that it’s probably very few people that need just 1 of a certain pill. Thisnis likely a supply issue with this medication in the multi blister packs, so they gave 20 singles.
Make it harder to steal is the most common reason.
first of all why would anyone steal pills? secondly, how is this making it harder?
first of all why would anyone steal pills?
Remember, people in the US often have to pay a shitload for medication.
But even outside of the US, there’s still the issue of people wanting to steal prescription medicine if you can get high on it/sell it to people who want to get high from it.
i think that might be a suicide prevention measure, i remember something about blister packaging helping reduce suicide rates.
You will also often see such packaging used with in hospitals, group homes, and nursing homes. It helps to limit med errors for nurses and cnas and can allow some mentally handicapped people or elderly to have some control over their lives.
It’s not a common packaging you are going to get from a pharmacy unless specified for you by a doctor.
Just looked this up, had no idea but it makes sense
😂 Bro its sad how so many doctors dont really consider most humans adults lol
Adults are the ones usually killing themselves by overdosing. Suicide is final, and survivors of botched attempts praise that they failed to kill themselves. It’s why men have a higher suicide rate, because their method is usually final. Having a packaging that hinders the process of suicide via overdosing is helpful to all involved.
i talked some shit above but that sounds more right, do you have any sources?
CDC reports 90% of suicide survivors don’t attempt a second suicide.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/suicide/surviving-a-suicide-attempt
Why more men die than women in suicide attempts.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190313-why-more-men-kill-themselves-than-women
that still works if you put 20 in the same blister package
I got a big pack of milka cookies, it was huge…triple the size of their regular…turns out it only came with 2 extra cookies.
It had a huge plastic tray, remind me again why i’m being told to use a paper straw once every 2 years i actually get a straw when manufacturers keep pulling shit like that.
Have you made any effort to change the laws about straws beyond complaining about it on social media?
Ah, right. How could I forget. Systemic issues are solely the fault of us as individuals for not singlehandedly solving them ourselves
What you’re doing isn’t productive.
Surely just as productive.
Why would i change laws for the straws when they are replaced for a good cause.
The point i attempted to make is that that single straw is like half a gram of plastic saved when the manufacturer makes possibly millions of these packages that waste 30x the plastic that is saved on my straw.
We just need a good and effective way to make the manufacturer of these products change their ways. Adding costs/fines/taxes for plastic usage isn’t helping because they just pass those on to us and sneak in a little extra profit.
Medicinal clamshell package. I ain’t even upset about all the excess packaging. I’m pissed at the fact you need a circular saw to open your medicine just to take the daily dose.
😂
JUST PUT IT IN A PILL BOTTLE.
Bottles are bad. There’s a reason that the industry is, often due to public welfare regulations, moving away from them.
Could you explain why?
because people really do end up chugging the pills, among other reasons.
i am totally for reducing waste, but we have bigger fish to fry first
you can still chug the pills it just takes a few more minutes
thanks for that
yea it’s sadly a proven principle that any extra difficulty helps lower suicide rates
what are these pills that OD is a worry?
Fewer people create less waste.
Blister packs are purposely annoying to open to prevent abuse
i don’t know any addict that would be deterred for even a minute by that
And yet when I put an entire box of blister pack antihistamines in my bag, I pull it out later on to find 75% of blisters broken.
What are those?
Gas station dick pills
Ugh yeast infections suck don’t they.
i wasnt trying to hide it but how did you know haha, are the colours standardized?
… What were you doing with that baguette?
We’ve all been there.
serioufuckingsly?
This reminds me of when I got an RX for Quvivq. It came in a box… Which had three boxes inside of that… Each inner box had a slide-out blister pack with 10 pills in it 🤦♂️
Malicious compliance at its best.
Could’ve put all of them in one bottle instead of foil trays…
Exactly why this style of packaging exists is to stop people from downing an entire bottle.
Genuinely confused how lemmy dorks keep being surprised by very basic safety measures like this.
Blister packaging also allows for multiple safeguards against fake/forged medication.
Plenty of people in here tryna make a big-plastic conspiracy just had me lolin
