Unfortunate that does include dev of lemmy too.

edit: The opinions if that support actually takes place or not differs between people as you will find out in the discussions below.

  • ancomOP
    15·
    3 years ago

    Do you know what “critically support” means?

    yes. Here is means something like this: Being critical of some aspects, but overall bringing legitimacy to the one the criticism is directed to and usually being supportive to them while setting it in contrast to some others who are said to be worse, as if dichotomy thinking be an requirement for emancipation, and when claimed that behavior is supportive, to dismiss it by shifting the focus on “critical”, while not at all leaving the dichotomy bias.

    • Star Wars Enjoyer @lemmygrad.ml
      52·
      3 years ago

      I went ahead and looked at your history, and it looks like all you do on lemmy is be combative and argue with people, often taking what people said entirely out of context. I’m leaning towards believing you’re a troll. If you’re not a troll, I’d suggest working on how you interact with others. Because, honestly? You’re kinda toxic and I hope the lemmy mods do something about you.

      but, in good faith. A big thing to keep in mind while talking about unfortunate situations happening in other countries, if you don’t live there, you don’t get a say - what so ever - about what should be happening. As observers, most of us from western nations, we can only talk about the facts of what’s happening, the policies of the organizations in question, and discuss the pros and cons of those things. My only basis for critical support for the Taliban (something I’ll freely divorce once more things develop) comes from their status as the legal government, the relative support they seem to have within Afghanistan, and the promises they’ve made to the international community. If they’re being honest about those promises (and mind you, as the replies say on my original comment, they’re in ‘PR mode’) then they’d already be leaps and bounds ahead of the previous government. They’re probably not going to uphold their promises, and I’ll be very critical of them when they eventually start to show their true colours. But, as of now, they’re the better of the readily available options for the country in my opinion, and I can only hope they do better for the country than 20 years of war has.

      I know well the history of the Taliban, and I support none of that, nor do I support the Taliban as an organisation. But will I quietly watch from the sidelines hoping for the best? absolutely.

      • ancomOP
        14·
        3 years ago

        A big thing to keep in mind while talking about unfortunate situations happening in other countries, if you don’t live there, you don’t get a say - what so ever - about what should be happening

        My opinion is shaped by people that actually live or lived there recently.

        As observers, most of us from western nations, we can only talk about the facts of what’s happening, the policies of the organizations in question, and discuss the pros and cons of those things

        Maybe that’s the difference between us. I don’t see myself in mere observer role, but as someone who takes part in shaping history. I listen to the people that are effected, and try to find out what my capabilities are to support them. Obviously my capabilities are limited and I will not name what they are, but I will name possibilities of how to support:

        • help refugees with resources you have, or the one you can acquire
        • help refugees to get legal resistance status by many means
        • pressure your own government so that more safe passages can be organized
        • organize passports
        • organize money and hand it over to local groups
        • amplify the voices of people in Afghanistan who struggle for emancipation and find out what material support they need and how you can help with organizing such
        • attack by whatever means feasible the military industrial complex that is NATO, or that helps Taliban
        • support structures that emerged from the Kurdish resistance movements, as their experience and their achievements can help all surrounding communities
        • you can blend into the masses, speak local lang, you have useful skills that could benefit emancipation, you are physical and mental strong enough to deploy yourself into a potential war zone, then consider to go there and consider building international volunteer structure so that those that come after you, have it easier to join in
        • …etc.
        • ancomOP
          14·
          3 years ago

          I’ll be very critical of them when they eventually start to show their true colours

          they shut down women protests for example. They harass women. What more do you need to stop building legitimacy for the Taliban?

          If they’re being honest

          they say women have to obey sharia law as interpreted by the Taliban. That’s their promise.

          • ancomOP
            1·
            3 years ago

            But will I quietly watch from the sidelines hoping for the best? absolutely.

            please do so, instead of writing long posts about your “critical support” for the Taliban.